Red Bull F1

I was referring to your comment post#2524

"Bottas is also available for 2025 - or at least, he is until the point where Audi, if it is sensible, signs him up again. --"

Since he hasn't shown any leadership at Sauber, I think Bottas will be a weak #1 at Audi, and they should look for a replacement.

I have no idea what went wrong in the negociations between Audi and Sainz.

 

Sure - Horner in no way will make this happen. Tsunoda needs to leave. Fully disagree with this. Sure it COULD happen. Makes zero sense overall. He is not that good at all. "Remains in the picture" lol.

Tsunoda will be considered for Red Bull promotion if he keeps performing - Bayer
Tsunoda may have been overlooked for a Red Bull spot this year, but he remains in the picture for 2025

 

Audi has shown a distinct inability to sign a good competitive driver with wins lol.

 

You are probably right; the management changes in the last 2 years haven't be reassuring to recruit Sainz.

But I think Audi (with help from Porsche no doubt) could become big players in years to come.

I am convinced VW is not getting into F1 to simply be extra, but to win.

 

I would think Toyota once stated that in a press release lol

 

It's confirmed Red Bull had an inertial valve mounted at the rear brakes, downstream of the brake by wire system. The switches were/are after the hydraulic line split just before each rear wheel allowing asymmetric amounts of pressure depending on G being pulled to whichever side. Illegal and why that car had little to no understeer. This was forcibly removed from the car a few races ago but this is the first clarification on what it was. Most believe they were running this last year and likely since 2021 Abu Dhabi....

 

source?

I was felt like the 2022 onward RBR's had something trick going on, but I thought it was something with stalling the diffuser so they could run low but not porpoise at high speeds and still have a very high top speed.

 

If true, that would be a gross trick, someone should have spotted that valve earlier. I supposed these days the cheats were hidden into some software code, as all cars are dissasembled by FIA from time to time.

 

Toyota was progressing slowly, having started from scratch, and were the 5th team in the ranking when they pulled the plug.
They were not helped by changing drivers every 2 years or so, and there was no continuity in the technical team either.
They probably left too early.

 

Like in for the Ferrari fuel cheat, the FIA kept quiet about this.
This was probably settled behind closed doors with brown envelopes changing hands.
Is that why Newey is leaving Red Bull on tiptoes ?

 

How dare you post this!! Mercedes does all the cheating according to a few posters here- I think they would say "fake news, all Toto's fault, blame LH" etc,etc!

 

Yeah, like @SS454 said, who's the source? Peter Windsor?

I have yet to see anything credible regarding this alleged accusation.

 

I understand that it indeed started with a theory / deduction by Windsor in a post on "X", that a technician from R.B has just qualified as "B.S" (I am only quoting the profanity)

Rgds.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/f1/news-yea-bulls-t-unsurprisingly-red-bull-employee-calls-f1-pundit-s-claims-austrian-team?key4=skf1fb

 

Racingnews365 published something from Paolo Filisetti, who is typically more right than wrong.


https://racingnews365.com/how-a-minor-fia-tweak-could-have-had-a-dramatic-effect-on-red-bull

 

"alleged cheat"

Either way I'm kind of glad Ferrari found some extra straight line power within a grey area of regs - it spiced up the season for a few months.

 

I would expect ANY team member to deny this if there is a deal in place to move on from it after the system is pulled. Not the first time that would be the case with the FIA. All teams have 'issues' found and 'remedied' and the sport moves on without much press or notice. Possibly more will come out or maybe very little overall.

 

Sure but the actual 'credibility' of the sport- if any lol, suffers with such 'deals'. They stress openess at times and we suffer again with rumors of cheat etc. Sorry but one cannot have it both ways yet F1 tries lol.

 

The lack of transparency in this affair was so obvious, that we are allowed to speculate.

 

Trying to keep everything under wraps, the FIA is acting like the Godfather in a Mafia clans war.

 

Yes saw that -- hence RedBull 'chasing setups' later in the first half of this season. Lacking consistent mitigation so far.

 

It's no different than when the FIA let Mercedes and RedBull run their FRIC system for 2 years. Ferrari, obviously, wanted clarification and wrote a letter to the FIA wanting the legality of such system. The FIA in-turn banned MercedesAMGF1 and RedBull from using such system.

The DAS from MercedesAMGF1 was another system that was used for 1 year and later banned by the FIA.

to be continued......

 

He makes nice drawings showing car updates but his tech knowledge is questionable—see his blathering on anti-dive and bouncing. He just regurgitates stuff from a couple of Italian based web sites priding themselves on uncovering the last single trick making the current fastest car go fast.

There’s a reply to Windsor’s post on X from Scarbs about how he thinks an inertia valve could work but it really doesn’t make sense unless the brake-by-wire system is flowing fluid continuously, as when the brake pedal pressure is fully applied, there’s no flow to be diverted, and with the system as proposed, the pressure would balance in the left and right lines.

I think either people are grasping at straws—maybe based on Max’s brake issue at AUS—the actual system is more sophisticated, or… maybe the rule charge may affect a team other than RBR.

 

More echo's on this. Grey area closed.

https://www.f1technical.net/news/25256

 

If you're not finding loopholes, you're not trying hard enough.

 

Would be clever if they put in an ‘inertia’ valve, as some are speculating, that restricts brake pressure relief on the inside rear wheel after releasing brake, and hence helping rotation. Not sure how you’d tune this but yeah, would have been worth a try.