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What if they put in a valve in the brake line actuated by a non/rotating tire.
a) while tire rotates, caliper gets full pressure,
b) when tire is not rotating the pressure bleeds off,
...
All they would have to do is put the valve in the hub assembly and route it internally to the caliper.
Where it is seen by nobody, ever...

 

Why is it deemed illegal ? It seems a clever way to reduce understeer.
Why does the FIA want to ban any new bit of technology ?

 

You are right, but the regulation states both calipers at either end must supply equal amounts of pressure at all times. The very recent addition to this particular sentence in the regulation has most speculating that it is due to what Red Bull were doing. Mclaren did this in the late 90s with a secondary brake pedal, which was outlawed and this regulation was written. I have to hand it to Red Bull for deducing a way to implement this again by way of likely a switch of some sort, which would be extremely challenging to detect.


"The braking system must be designed so that, within each braking circuit, the forces applied to the brake pads are of the same magnitude and act as opposite pairs on a specific brake disc. Any system or mechanism that can systematically or intentionally produce asymmetric braking torques on a given axis is prohibited."

 

The question remains: WHY ban it ?

 

There are dozens of things banned, what´s the fuss? They can do it for cost reduction, slowing down cars for safety or just political reasons.

 

I guess the only reason I can surmise is that the driver doesn't have control of the braking since it gives the car an advantage in the corners by biasing one side of the tire as opposed to the other side of the tire. The FIA figures it needs to be equal brake pressure on both sides of the "axle."

 

The FIA is selective in what they ban, IMO.
None of these "reasons" stands close examination.
Never mind ...

 

I agree they are seemingly selective about these things. Red Bull found an almost undetectable way to do what Mclaren were doing in the late 90s, for which there was a regulation specifically made. Had the Fia known about it sooner they would have banned it immediately as the regulation states it's not legal. It's like the flexible wings, they're clearly illegal, but the test is insufficient to check all parameters so they exist in this gray area until the test is updated. Red Bull should consider themselves fortunate for having it on the car as long as they did as that is a tough system to spot, makes me wonder how or who clued them on to it as being a possibility.

 

The selective part often falls into the "political reasons" category.

 

No doubt.
And it's highly possible that rules have been bent or broken ever since F1 began.
There's just a lot more scrutiny today.

Computers !

 

So RB was cheating? Wonder if this technology on both cars or just Max car.

 

me thinks that all dominant cars have an ace of their sleeves, ferrari, mercedes, red bull etc.
any innovation that is new and doesnt violate existing rules should be allowed, thats called innovation. if fia wants to ban it, they need to wait to the following year.

 

Disagree. They seem to take from all teams when things/systems are discovered. They clearly closed this loophole no matter who was affected and who reported. Thats how it should work. I do think they should state publicly both - reporter of it and the team or teams affected.

 

Well, some loopholes are closed instantly (like this one), others are left open till next year (like the blown diffuser) and some even are not loopholes but cheats (like Honda's extra fuel deposit).

Sí I'd say that there is inconsistency. I'll left to the reader guessing the reasons why this happens, because I don't know why.

 

Probably why Max's rear right brake caught fire and exploded at Melbourne 2024. He retired the car. Maybe the T-Valve got stuck sending fluid to the rear left brake thereby causing his brakes to overheat since the caliper was stuck clamping down on the pads.

 

Very credible explanation.

 

IF it is true (still speculation up till now); isn't it funny how some things are allowed to be on a car for a full season yet others are removed immediately despite it being in a grey area of the rules for both...

 

You can be thankful that politics had nothing to do with it-------Oh wait !

 

I still think Newey would have left this year. They were prepping for this I think.

Red Bull's tech organisation "didn't change" after Newey's departure
Red Bull's tech chief shares what has changed, and what hasn't, after designer Newey stopped being involved in its Formula 1 car development

 

So Its Ricci with Max or Lawson. I dont see Yuki going anywhere but out after 2025. He is not top tier material or trustworthy. Too slow to mature.
Sure I can be wrong.............

Lawson "definitely" will be in one of Red Bull's cars in F1 2025, says Marko
Marko says New Zealander is set to race in either a Red Bull or RB car next season

 

Where does that leave Perez ?

 

Selling Chihuahua Beer in Cabo??

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It would be a pitty if Perez doesn't get a seat next year.
He is more valuable than Ricciardo or Tsunami, IMO.

 

He's old news and lacks adaptability lol. You can easily include him with the others. His results in a winning car are not even close to Bottas' stats at Mercedes winning era. Perez is not a top tier F1 team driver. His result at Spa was the epitome of mid pack talent among others.

The public excuses made by RedBull mouths are sad =
The Red Bull motorsport advisor also discussed the ongoing efforts within the team to improve the car's drivability, which has been a significant factor in Perez's struggles this season.

"Our discussion was not just about drivers, it was regular discussions we had of what can we do to improve the situation? We have to try to make the car more easy to drive.
"The more difficult the car is to drive, the more the difference to Max comes out because he's such an outstanding talent. If the rear steps out he won't lift the throttle, he's just, 'yeah, it's a little bit nervous,' Checo says 'it's difficult' or 'it’s undriveable.'”

So make it easier to drive lol. His operating window is narrow plus his mistakes, poor qualy etc. Last year the same. 5mil$ bill for crashes. Yeah he's awesome lol!!

 

Checo...........not in top 10 Prac 2

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