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LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by Ale55andr0, Dec 24, 2019.

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  1. snowboy458

    snowboy458 Karting

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    I want to know the weight of the car!
     
  2. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

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    #4002 day355, Aug 24, 2024
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    Don't expect anything very far from the LF at true... A little better...
    A V12 weighs about 200 kg and a V6 much less, but there are all the cooling systems and those related to the batteries.
    the ones you win on one side...
     
  3. jpalmito

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    • Well I guess this car will have a front electrified axle ?
     
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  4. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

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    No details...
     
  5. snowboy458

    snowboy458 Karting

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    To be honest a bit disappointed if it's in the same ballpark as LF. I was expecting a max 300kg more than 499PM since both have the same architecture.
     
  6. maximilien

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    Don’t forget safety requirements for regulation and more comfort. Race car it’s race car and road car it’s different for regulation
     
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  7. day355

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    The power-to-weight ratio is much better than the LAF
     
  8. snowboy458

    snowboy458 Karting

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    I know. That's why I added the 300kg.
     
  9. ScrappyB

    ScrappyB Formula 3

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    How does it sound?
     
  10. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

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    No idea
     
  11. REALZEUS

    REALZEUS F1 Veteran

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    Really? What is the result? Did you drive the 250 and came away disappointed?

    Also the fact that you pretend to know better what the others like, or should like, is beyond comical.
     
  12. George330

    George330 Formula 3

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    I don’t think the chassis will have anything to do with the 499… all LM cars share the same basic chassis architecture, not sure Ferrari will use the same chassis…
    The powertrain should have many things in common


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  13. George330

    George330 Formula 3

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    First of all the SP3 and the LaF are about the same in weight terms. Around 1600 wet.
    Second, when I say hypercar I am referring to the top range of Ferrari that started with the 288 GTO and goes to the F250… the SP3 is an Icona but architecturally it is a LaF Aperta without batteries. In my book it shares the same pedigree

    By your definition an Enzo is not a hypercar but a Lotus Evija is…

    Personally I wouldn’t place a Jesko next to any Ferrari and I would not put a LaF in the same group simply because they all have hybrid powetrains

    Just a matter of definition and preference I guess


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  14. Johnny_Bravo

    Johnny_Bravo Formula Junior

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    Not if you develop a new V12.
    And the V6 only beats it cause it has the extra electric power.
     
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  15. Johnny_Bravo

    Johnny_Bravo Formula Junior

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    I say it's crappy cause it doesn't sound anywhere near as good, does not deliver the same liniar acceleration and enjoyment and.....there are a gazillion cars out there that have a V6 in them, there's nothing special about it.
     
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  16. Johnny_Bravo

    Johnny_Bravo Formula Junior

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    No I don't.
     
  17. Enzo Belair

    Enzo Belair Formula 3

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    Looks like the back deck is matt black on this car, not body color, which would look interesting. You can see where the body color of the car is red.

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  18. Enzo Belair

    Enzo Belair Formula 3

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    Thank you for your honest answer.
     
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  19. Senad

    Senad Formula Junior

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    correct
     
  20. Lukeylikey

    Lukeylikey F1 Rookie
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    How close is what we can imagine from the mule to the real impression we will get when we see the final car, what new tech ideas are there, what influence from both F1 and WEC is there etc.
     
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  21. 4re4ever

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    YOU JUSTY DONT GET IT. There is no new V12 and even if there was it would still be Hybrid now lets get back to the real world we are past the point of the F250 being anything more than what it is.
     
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  22. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    The ENZO like the F50 and F40 were supercars. Stop trying to change the labels on past models with new labels. Even if weight is the same the SP3 is over weight specially given it has no e motor or batteries like the LaFerrari anyway you do you and Ill do me have a great weekend
     
  23. Lukeylikey

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  24. 4re4ever

    4re4ever Formula 3
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    The 12C even with the V12 sound crappy due to the new sound regs
     

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