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  1. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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  2. Aardy

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    4-5 September 1954, Skarpnäcksloppet, Skarpnäck, Stockholm, Sweden

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    Sportscars Race

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    375 MM Pinin Farina Spyder 0360AM Casimiro de Oliveira DNF
    #37 250 Monza Pinin Farina Spyder 0432M Luigi Piotti DNF
    #43 500 Mondial Pinin Farina Spyder 0408MD Valdemar Stener 7th

    #44 Rune Bertilsson 8th


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    #45 Erik Lundgren EL-Ford Special

    Production +2.6 Race

    #23 250 MM Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0344MM Olof "Mas-Olle" Persson 3rd

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    #21 Jaguar C-type Michael Head
     
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    3-12 September 1954, Tour de France


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    #126 166 MM/53 Oblin Spyder 0300M Jacques Herzet/Lucien Bianchi DNF
    #233 500 Mondial Pinin Farina Berlinetta 0422MD Mario Dustaritz/Lino Fayen DNF
    #234 500 Mondial Pinin Farina Spyder 0424MD Yves Dupont/Pierre Biagini DNF
    #235 500 Mondial Pinin Farina Berlinetta Léon Couliboeuf/Robert Aumaître DNF
    #244 735 Sport Scaglietti Spyder 0446MD François Picard/Alfred Barraquet DNF

    #236 500 Mondial Pinin Farina Spyder 0458MD "Cerrato"/Gino Munaron DNF

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    #241 Gordini T15S Jacques Pollet/Hubert Gauthier
     
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  4. Sempre_gilles

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    Skarpnäcksloppet: my notes have chassis 0366 AM for Pedro Casimiro de Oliveira?
     
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    Chassis 0452 MD
     
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  6. Aardy

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    Yes, tipo ! Thanks ! ;)
     
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    Does anyone happen to have a photo of Bob Said’s 0454MD at the Governor’s Trophy race in Nassau Bahamas Dec 9th 1955? Interestingly he wasn’t listed as a participant in the race program but Chinetti is shown to have registered a 1980cc Ferrari under number 20 which would synch up to a Said’s Mondial 500. There is also an account of Said participating in the race from a Road & Track article in 1955 and he’s listed as a DNF on a results report so it seems he must have driven under the Chinetti entry since no other listed entrants were unknown. Any info or photos in particular be appreciated…

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    Yes, I wonder if 0454MD was really entered in this race... o_O ZERO pic !!
     
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    Interesting. The program for Nassau race week has Phil Hill registered as number 33 as seen in the photo below. It appears he changed numbers as the week went on. Bob Said is listed as driving in the Governor's Trophy race (link) and (link) 12.09.1955 with no number listed (I’m assuming he was 20 that day) and Hill shows 33 on that same day just as in the program. There are write ups of the race in several periodicals discussing Said’s participation that day and showing did not attend for the next day - presumably because of issues sustained during the initial race day. But, the same (link) shows Hill was then number 20 on 12.10.1955 which matches up with the photo you posted.

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    Phil Hill raced 0498 M on December 9th entered by George Tilp with race number 33.
    On December 10th and 11th he raced 0570 M entered by Luigi Chinetti with race number 20.

    For the Nassau Trophy Race on December 11th there was originally entered a 500 Mondial by Luigi Chinetti on race number 20 which DNS.
     
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    Perhaps Said was under a different number then? Road & Track mentions only two incidents December 9th and one was Said with a fire of some sort. The race record shows he did 18 laps…

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    Sure !
     
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    11 September 1954, Tourist Trophy, Dundrod, United Kingdom


    Fifth round of the 1954 World Sportscar Championship

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    #15 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0440MD Mike Hawthorn/Maurice Trintignant Scuderia Ferrari 1st (2nd with the handicap)
    #16 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0462MD Joe Kelly/Joe Titterington DNF (gearbox)
    #31 500 Mondial Scaglietti Spyder 0454MD Bob Said/Masten Gregory 9th (2nd in 2 liters class)

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    #14 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0428MD José Froilán González /Maurice Trintignant Scuderia Ferrari DNS (Picture from Barchetta.cc website)
     
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    Pic is from the 1954 Ferrari Yearbook.

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  18. Marcel Massini

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    R#16 (0462 MD) was painted dark green with a yellow nose band and a yellow side stripe.

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    Painted or repainted in these colours ? Very curious that the alloy bar in flanks and the Scaglietti badge have disappeared.
     
  20. Marcel Massini

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    #1745 Marcel Massini, Sep 11, 2024
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    0462 MD was born green. See also the chassis page (Autotelaio) of the factory build sheets which confirms "colore verde e giallo" and prepared for "GP Irlanda".
    The car was completed 3 September 1954, first owner Joe Kelly of Dublin received it 4 September 1954. The 11 September 1954 TT at Dundrod was the first race for 0462 MD.
    It did not have a Scaglietti badge. You may want to check out the gorgeous color photo on page 10 of photographer Martyn Wainwright's wonderful book "1950s Motorsport in Colour", published in 2004 by Veloce.

    (Per "Sports Car World" April 1959: When Norm Crowfoot had it he had it repainted blue.)

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    Yes, I know this beautiful photo. Many thanks for these very interesting infos !
     
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  24. Marcel Massini

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    Martyn Wainwright, see my post 1745.

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  25. kare

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    0454MD and 0462MD were built without decoration, chrome text or badge, it seems. In the early photos you can also see bare alloy where the fresh paint is stripping, indicating there is no other color underneath.
     
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