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It's not funny, and I'm not drunk.

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Aircon, Apr 26, 2011.

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  1. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Bring back the 1970s! Dad built an incinerator in the backyard :D
     
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  2. knocker

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    Yep bonfire night was the highlight of the year, burn everything up [emoji33]


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  3. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ
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    Yep! We had one in our back yard... until I blew it up :rolleyes:
     
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  4. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Actually they don't and that's the problem- give off lots of toxic fumes and you're still left with an blob of melted plastic at the bottom when you're done. The extreme temperatures needed to truly 'burn' plastics like EPS means that cost is higher than the small amount of usable residual material obtained.
     
  5. greg246

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  6. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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  7. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    So did mine :p

    And cemented the front and back yards
     
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  8. simon klein

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  9. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I must say I'm very conflicted by this verdict - yes, he definitely caused the death of 10 innocent people BUT there was no intention to do so. His life is ruined anyway.
    Some of the incredibly malicious, pre-meditated murderers of single people are out in a few years. This sentence seems a bit 'grandstanding' for want of a better word.
     
  10. islerodreaming

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    His manner of driving negates his 'lack of intention'. He can drive like that on his own but the consequences with 30 people on board is pure negligence.
     
  11. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    Fully agree, I've followed this case since the start , reading the judge's summary of the case put forward and the evidence only a FOOL would think otherwise that the sentence was incorrect or too harsh !
     
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  12. Arvin Grajau

    Arvin Grajau Seven Time F1 World Champ

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    The judge's summary left NO option but a lengthy prison term ..
     
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  14. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Yes but 'negligence' is not intent. Be interesting to see what sort of sentences the recent cases of child homicide will attract.
     
  15. islerodreaming

    islerodreaming Formula 3

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    If a foreseeable outcome of an act or omission is, in this instance, a crash could occur and people die then that is intent ie: I didn't intend to crash but driving the way I did a crash was possible. Your version has no hope in court - there is a tonne of case law on this.
     
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  16. simon klein

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    Overdosing on Tramadol changes that point of view IMO.
    And the fact he doesn't think he was negligent,sort of cancels each other out.IMO.
     
  17. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    No I'm not saying he should be let iff in any way, just it seems like they made a huge sentence because there were 10 people involved whereas often 1 person intentionally and viciously murdered gets off with a much lighter sentence.
     
  18. islerodreaming

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    Sentencing is driven by precedent and can be quite confusing at times. In many cases the Judge's hands are effectively tied as to what sentence they can give without being overturned in the Appeals Court. I've always found it odd that the financial planner who steals your money will get more gaol time than someone who does a violent home invasion. On the other hand I met a guy in his forties who had done 2 seperate stints for murder - 10 to 12 years seem to be the norm unless you are naughty in gaol or won't tell where the body is..
     
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  19. Steve355F1

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    Legend. Loved Bruno.
     
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  20. Arvin Grajau

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  22. Steve355F1

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    Money on the fridge, Wog.

    Lol.
     
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  23. Arvin Grajau

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