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I was looking at that. Its like the load on the top is more then the bottom so it pivots. Makes sense really

 

Wing surfaces are being actively monitored for a few races now and there is no protest yet on Mclaren's device. Since even Horner is not yelling about this like he did after the Perez / Sainz crash not sensing much will be done by any team. The FIA could act but the rear wing/DRS seems to be legal for now. We ask for innovation and here it is and no one is openly complaining. IF this was a Ferrari wing we would not have this discussion.

 

Certainly haven't heard anything yet. If any conversations are happening behind closed doors, the public isn't aware of it.

According to the 2023 rule book, the slot gap must be 85 mm with DRS open, but I do not find anything about it having to stay a certain size with DRS closed. So it's even more impressive if McLaren has found a way to get the upper element to flex open during closed DRS loads, but not with open DRS loads.

I think if Red Bull or Ferrari came up with this idea, the likes of McLaren and Mercedes would speak up.

 

An interesting driver Oscar is. Others with more experience could learn from that.

McLaren race engineer Tom Stallard says the “calmness” typically displayed by Oscar Piastri during a race helps his entire team maintain its composure, leading to better strategic decisions.

 

His "excitement" when he wins is NOTHING like most other drivers .... I've seen other drivers go mental when they win their first few races but Oscar just acknowledges the team and says thanks very matter of fact like

 

expect to win

 

Interesting post race analysis with a focus on Mclaren-

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hughes-mclarens-other-wing-trick-behind-its-singapore-superiority/

McLaren’s high downforce superiority is derived from its great balance when running those bigger wings, an advantage which multiplies with its effect on tyre degradation.

This is with a generation of car inherently difficult to balance, a generation which Red Bull has found can fall badly out of balance as it’s developed to produce more total downforce.

Mastery of aero elasticity gave McLaren its rear wing ‘mini DRS’ advantage on the low-downforce tracks. But on the high-downforce tracks that same mastery has given it a front wing which deforms perfectly to be powerful on slow corners with an aggressive flap angle, without it then being too powerful on high-speed corners as the flap bends, reducing the downforce of the wing to give the centre of pressure appropriate to the speed of the corner.

 

There are dozens or hundreds of posts and articles each week showing how much McLaren's front wing flexes. It flexes so much one has to question if it really does pass the legality tests.

 

The legality tests must be in question as well.

 

A rear wing rule should read Zero light or air through the two meeting surfaces of upper and lower wing elements end to end at any speed, other than when DRS is activated. Or get rid of it entirely. WWFF1

 

That would defeat the purpose of a multi element wing. You need the slot gap to energize the upper element.

 

The FIA said the wings passed the test and are legal. Why looking beyond that ?

Last time it was Red Bull being accused of the same thing, and the FIA made the test more stringent. Still Red Bull was legal.

 

But no mini drs chance

 

The FIA and Liberty Media have blatantly shown they are willing to ignore rules, bend rules, enforce rules, change rules, or break rules depending on the team and/or driver. Especially when it helps them manipulate the championship for more views and more money. They put out a statement that said the McLaren's rear wing was legal, even though they banned RBR's example just 3 years ago. They went back on this decision pretty darn quick when the world called them on their BS. FIA appears to save face when most don't know that McLaren's mini DRS was only used on 3 tracks and never was going to be on the car in Singapore or the USA. Helmut Marko claims he went to the FIA about their rear wing multiple times and only now when the fans and media took notice is something being done.

The point is, if the FIA are this openly corrupt and manipulative, why not question if they have turned a blind eye to McLaren to help their popular Brit, Lando challenge for the championship and make for an exciting season. Using a logical brain, it seems hard to imagine that McLaren's front wing can flex twice as much as Red Bull's or Ferrari's and still pass the legality tests. Any and all F1 teams push the rules to the limit, so we have to assume Red Bull and Ferrari's front wings are flexing as much as they can while still passing the FIA's legality tests.

 

Here we go: another conspiracy theory !!

 

Here we ago again, someone that refuses to see the facts and resorts to the whole "conspiracy theory" labeling. How original.

 

Nice to see the competitive edge Mclaren are putting out! The wing issue was more than distracting to others! Yet not a single FORMAL protest against it.

Singapore GP: McLaren rear wing distracting rivals - Andrea Stella

McLaren agreed to modify the wing, which passed tests but would not have been used in Singapore due to the characteristics of the circuit, for future races after talks with the governing FIA.

Stella said it was all something of a "red herring," a misleading distraction.

"For us, making changes is pretty much transparent, so we may as well do it," he told reporters at the Marina Bay circuit before the race.

"It won't be a big consequence from a performance point of view.

"Personally, as the principal of McLaren, I find that so much attention on our rear wing is just good news because it means that opponents are not focusing on themselves," Stella added.

"And Formula 1 is such a marginal game, it's so complicated... When I see that there's so much attention from other teams, it means that they will be doing work, they will be doing analysis, they will be talking to the FIA.

"There's limited time and limited energy. They're using this time and energy to chase something that I think is a red herring. So for me as McLaren, that's just good news."

https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/41396441/singapore-gp-mclaren-rear-wing-distracting-rivals-andrea-stella

 

F1 is what it is; not what some would like it to be.

 

Will Courtenay(RedBull) to join Mclaren as Sporting Director from 2026 and beyond.

 

Bye Max, Horner. Another major player leaves. Ok is it Max to Mclaren next lol

 

lol, coming from the team utilizing papaya rules, I doubt they are that intuitive

 

Legality tests MAY be up for review and modification.
But until such is done, they are the letter of the law.

 

Multi-element wings don't work like that. There HAS to be some airflow between the two elements or they are not very efficient.

See "Race car Aerodynamics" Katz.

 

Going all Yoda on us ??

 

But are the tests comprehensive? Is there a test covering every single aspect of the rules? If not, the rules themselves comprise the “letter of the law,” with the tests being supplemental.