LaFerrari replacement: v12, no hybrid, less power than SF90stradale?

1650kg kerb

 

Lets not forget the Laferrari had 6 extra cylinders, when the original press release was made about the next Ferrari supercar they said the emphasis was on reducing weight. This was one of the reasons why the V12 was rejected, this car was going to be a V8 until the 499P project was approved and consequently a roaring success. I am expecting this car to be around 1400kg all in.

 

Nope to lite

 

Hmmm, that makes sense of the 5s 0-200 claim. Suggests 1,300hp could also be accurate, though the ICE was supposed to be 1,000hp which seems a lot for the V6 engine. If it ever did achieve that, it would be a remarkable feat. Some might even say noble

 

Around 1580 kg with a full tank of fuel.

 

Nope.

 

V6 TT will be around 800hp alone I guess, which is already a tremendous achievement.
3 electric motors with let’s say 160hp each
Total power output around 1290-1300 Hps.

 

Sounds about right. They have held back the SF90 XX, so i would expect around 1200 to maybe 1300bhp.

 

I stayed at 900 hp

 

900 hp from a road homologated 3.0 V6 is an amazing achievement if true.
Just to note, Ferrari vision GT virtual model has the same V6 uncapped and brought up to maximum limit achievable on paper for a non homologated vehicle and it has 1030 PS a 9000 giri/min.

If on this road application they could reach 900 PS, it is a once again the proof that this V6 is a really wonderful piece of engine, though I wonder what they could do with V8 engine if they wnted to push past its boundaries

 

All it needs is 6 cyls more.

Marcel Massini

 

This user saw 1,650kg

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/144137863/

 

V12 is wonderful, but to make it sustainable and on par with high pressure turbo, you would probably need quad-turbo configuraiton (or at least this is what Leiters said when he was in Ferrari).

Having just V12 NA plus hybrid would have required huge electric motors and even heavier batteries, so I assume they will keep it for GT range and maybe naother Icona, with little or no hybrid...

 

Yep, customer Laf's with fluids are around 1650kg.

 

Ferrari will say its 1400kg, but in the real world with all fluids and a full tank the customer cars will be 1700 to 1800kg. I do hope i'm wrong.

 

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Ferrari future models' presentation sheets indicated a V6 for the next "supercar" targeting (but not exactly reaching) 900cv. So is my expectation - closer to 900cv for the F250XX version and closer to 800cv for the casual garage queen :d

 

The Valkyrie has a 1000 HP, NA V12. Also, at this point in time a hybridised powertrain is non-negiotiable, irrespective of the type of the chosen ICE. Ferrari could have utilised a V12, but packaging, emissions/regulations and racing-relevance reasons resulted in the election of the V6, just like in F1 and WEC. Thus, it is not a lack of power that has relegated the N/A V12 to GT duties within the Ferrari universe, but rather the realities of the modern world and Ferrari's own product strategy in relation to racing.


Regarding the weight of the LaFerrari, two different examples have been weighed in at around 1580 kg. Of course they were at their lightest possible configuration, that might have played a role.

 

Perhaps one has to wonder what relevance racing has to most purchasers of the La Ferrari replacement? Not sure how important it would be in Monte Carlo or Mayfair. Lets see though there might be a surprise with the F250, either styling or mechanical, the 296 has proven a V6 can sound great.

 

Do we think this is the nose to expect?

 

The area between the headlights seems still to be covered up so expect something unexpected there, either graphic detailing—piano black strip like 12 c—or maybe some adjustable aero device (?).

 

Yeah if this is the pointy end of the car, aesthetically speaking, it is a hot mess. How long before reveal?

 

It's very F8 which almost seems too straightforward. I think I was expecting something a little more 499, based on earlier camo.

 

One of the members here weight there La Ferrari at 1650kg with a fuel tank, Hifi and lifters. The last 2 would only add 10- 20kgs

 

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Oh, that would be amazing!!!

Don't know what to say mate, his LF was heavier than the ones tested. I saw one at around 1585 at Fiorano and Quattroruote tested another car closer to 1580. Perhaps his scales were off...