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2015 Cali T rear sensors not making noise

Discussion in 'California(Portofino)/Roma(Amalfi)' started by Bbriden, Jun 8, 2024.

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  1. Bbriden

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    Jun 5, 2024
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    Robert Briden
    Good morning all, I am new to Ferrari but know there is a lot of information here. I purchased a 2015 Certified Cali T last year and have put about 1300 miles on it . I just took to dealer for oil change in Mass ($1035 oil and filter only , really? Common) when the car was done they told me rear sensors don’t appear to be working . They do light up green, yellow , etc but no noise . I asked if it’s covered under Power 15 warranty and they didn’t know , said bring car back leave it for a few days ( about 1.5 hours each way drive ) they will check it send info to Italy and if it’s covered I don’t have to pay the $265 for them to put analyzer on it . I have seen different posts but nothing were lights work but no noise . Is this one of those disconnect battery , put windows half way down , turn around 3 times on 1 foot , wait 10 minutes re-connect battery things does anyone know ? Before I have to leave car sitting at dealer for a week and 6 hours of driving figured I would ask the group. Personally between the notification on dash and rear view camera not sure why I need the noise just want everything to work as designed. Thank you
     
  2. bb2thdr

    bb2thdr Formula Junior

    Dec 23, 2021
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    There is a speaker in the back for the rear sensors. Most likely that is the issue, or the wire from the parking sensor ecu harness is not contacting properly for the rear speaker.
     
  3. Bbriden

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    thanks so much , I have to assume the sound was working for Ferrari to certify car last May. Quite frankly never noticed because it has front sensors as well and they go off when pulling out of garage . Do you think this is something I can fix DIY without pulling much apart or a dealer repair ? Thank you very much for the quick response . Bob
     
  4. dera

    dera Formula Junior

    Oct 7, 2023
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    I'd say you are giving the certification process too much credit.
     
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  5. Bbriden

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    Yea I am beginning to think you are spot on there.
     
  6. Bbriden

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    is the speaker and or wire visible from the Trunk do you know? I found a video on you tube and looks like took the whole bumper off . To me the noise isn’t important enough to do that unless it’s covered under the Ferrari Power 15 which the dealer didn’t know ( odd to me ) . Between the lights on the dash for the rear sensor working and the rear camera I am pretty comfortable as opposed to pulling off bumper . Your thoughts ?
     
  7. bb2thdr

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    no. It will be a real PITA to get to the speaker or the Sensor ECU. Sorry
     
  8. Bbriden

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    No worries thank you . I agree with the PITA statement . If its covered under bbn power 15 fine. If not dont care that much.
     
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  9. Bbriden

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    Jun 5, 2024
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    just a follow up for you , took to local shop that works on these things . Anyway they diagnosed everything such as modules etc is fine and they are checking wiring diagram to see repair of speaker . I haven’t heard back yet but I am reluctant to start removing interior panels of leather I the car to hear the noise since have camera and they light up . Do you have an opinion here or info as to what needs to be removed to get at this ? 260k car and speaker not working 13k miles , 2015 Acura RDX 30k and every other car I have owner never had speaker failure . Love the car but omg . Thanks Bob
     
  10. bb2thdr

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    The Sensors are obviously working if the display is showing the colors. The Parking sensor ecu sends coded Canbus messages (via the Can B System) to the dash display which then displays the parking sensors readings.

    If you had a failure of the Parking sensor ECU, the dash display would show a Parking Sensor Failure Icon which looks like a "P" with a triangle on the right side.

    That Parking sensor ecu also has wires that go to a rear speaker for the sound notification. So your problem is somewhere between the parking sensor ecu and that speaker. It could be a bad contact in the harness to the ECU, bad speaker, bad wire, bad connector on the speaker. Also could be a bad transistor on that ECU which only effects the speaker. That would happen if someone actually supplied a 12 v charge to the speaker. (I assume that scenario is less likely) The easiest way to figure would be to locate the parking sensor ecu in the trunk area. It is right by the Audio Amplifier on the Gas cap side of the trunk.

    The Parking Sensor ECU has 3 connectors attached to it. Think they were Black and 2 golden yellow connectors The large Golden Yellow Connector has 16 connections and the 2 smaller ones have 12 connectors.

    The large Golden Yellow connector pins 2 & 4 connect to the rear speaker. I think Pin 2 is a Green Red wire and pin 4 is a Green Black wire. Those are the connections you would need to check for conductivity. First i would gerry rig a small speaker to the wires and see if any sound comes out of that speaker. If so, you know the ECU is definitely operating correctly. Then you have to find the rear speaker on the back deck and disconnect that speaker from the connector. I'd plug that Gerry rigged speaker to the connector there and check again for sound. If you have sound, then the problem is with the rear speaker. If you dont, then you would need to replace or rewire the connections between the speaker and the ECU.

    Frankly this process is a complete PITA and will take quite some time.

    An easier and less conventional approach would be to obtain a little Raspberry Pi Nano with a canbus decoder on it. you can find one at adafruit.com for under $20. https://www.adafruit.com/product/5724

    Then find CAN B wires anywhere in the car. Easiest would be under the Passenger seat at the Parking Node ECU. Sniff the codes that cause the Display to show red and yellow (3D8 codes, sorry dont remember all the codes you will need but there will be a bunch) for all the rear sensors and write a simple python like code to make an attached speaker make a beeping sound or play an audio file saying something like "Rear Hazzard"

    This would not require the ripping apart the trunk area and the speaker area and would most likely be the cheapest route.

    That way you have not only fixed the problem but added additional functionality.
     
  11. Bbriden

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    Thank you so much for such a detailed explanation . I just got car back after diagnosis I am going to try and attach the write up here but short version is they came to conclusion as you as far as it being speaker related ($400 latter of course ) they explained the need to remove top of trunk area where roll over bars are to get at the speaker as far as if it’s a wire or the speaker . I am not inclined to have the car pulled apart like that since the rear camera and indicator lights are working fine but I like your alternate suggestion and will look into that . I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to offer such a detailed explanation and suggestion . Thank you again Bob
     

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  12. bb2thdr

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    Another option would be to run wires from the Parking sensor ecu to the cabin (via the fold down center seats) and hide a speaker somewhere in the back. Actually that would be the low tech easiest fix. You just need to connect speaker wires to pins 2 & 4 of the parking sensor ecu.
     
  13. Bbriden

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    you are the best , great idea . I see these little speakers on eBay for about $65 bucks. Can’t thank you enough . Bob
     
  14. Bbriden

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    I am sorry to bother you again and promise this is my last time on this topic . Probubly a stupid question but can you tell me where the ECU is located on the 15 cali and what it looks like by chance . If not no worries you have already been immensely helpful . If ever in RI I owe you big time . Thanks Bob
     
  15. bb2thdr

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    It’s located in the trunk on the passenger sid
     
  16. bb2thdr

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    It’s located on the passenger side of the trunk. You will need to remove the lining on the side of the trunk. Usually it is behind the audio amplifier, but could be located anywhere in that vicinity. It has the 3 plugs attached as described before. 2 yelowish gold and one black.
     

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