Picked up the car last week and really like how it looks! Car also feels very very fast but suspension seems to be much softer than the F8; so my first impression is it is too soft. Hmm.. maybe I spent to much time in my 992 GT3 and Tecnica lately. Just wondering what other owners think?
Feels well tuned to me, and the handling is superb. Not everything has to punish you on normal roads to be a great handling car.
That’s exactly how I felt after test driving. For context I daily drive a non-GT 992. Still looking forward to mine. Congrats!
Perhaps consider lowering it 10-20mm and/or the Novitec sport springs? https://tagmotorsports.com/novitec-hydraulic-adjustment-with-springs-ferrari-f8-tributo
tried it on both road and track… I think it is perfect for UK roads and I usually engage bumpy road - London roads and many UK B roads are generally third world…. And on track it is stiff enough. It is after all a road car … my GT3 was just too hard even on the normal setting… but of course ideal for track and better quality European roads…
I didn't find 296 gts soft under performance driving when pushing hard on backroads. I thought it was pretty good. I can daily my GT Porsches no problem but of course not as pleasant as a 296 in suburban driving settings. The 296gtb could only be considered s bit soft in comparison to a GT car during track driving but then to buy a 296 thinking its going to suit track in the same way as an RS is, will be a lesson in so far as which is suited better.
The f8 was too stiff in my opinion for what the car is. I know that will irritate a lot of people. I just prefer the regular car to be a tight yet comfortable gt car and then the speciale version to be more race care for the road. Obviously the f8 never had a speciale version
That's a pretty arrogant response and quiet obtuse. Of course not. But you knew that... You just decided to eliminate all the context supplied afterwords. Grow up
Prevents proper undulation under power. Then people come on here and complain that their new tire/wheel setup caused a significant loss of traction. But it’s actually not due to the tire/wheel setup. It’s due to the aftermarket lowering springs they installed. I know this from personal experience. Now I’ll only install aftermarket tires/wheels on my cars. Not springs.
Different spring rates will effect traction and weight transfer. the tune and power delivery of the engine is built around all of this. Changing the spring rates can absolutely effect traction management and if course overall grip... Braking... Lateral grim and acceleration can all be affected.
Always good to learn new things. I'd never heard of these issues. One quick search to gather more info and I ended up reading this: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/lowering-factory-springs-vs-novitec.580584/page-4 Awesome thread! Learned a lot
From the 488 onward, the control systems actually soften the rear dampers when you perform hard acceleration, thus, the entire system is expecting this behavior. If you change things, you will change what the system expects. I think you can make the changes but you have to realize you may be opening the door to more headaches, as Drivexxtreme points out above. Frankly, I wouldn’t touch the wheels and tires unless they are the same sizes and very near the same weight. I also think this is why they are offering the AF pack, you can get a kind of factory sanctioned stiffer suspension It’s different on the older cars, you could change more with little to no penalty.
My question is... what type of headache are we really talking about? I understand it's hard to measure, but in general terms? I'm really happy to learn more about this from the chat, as I have used Novitec SS and I've lowered the OEM ride height (by just 10mm to make it look a bit better TBH) in the past. I personally haven't noticed any big issues (neither on pretty spirited mountain passing nor at the track) but I made the changes early after buying the car so I wasn't in a position to really tell the difference. So again my questions would be: - are these headaches only noticeable when going at the very limit (most of us mere mortals wouldn't notice), or... - are we all (meaning the many of us changing the suspension) very uneducated / careless (whatever adjective you want to use) and clearly making a mistake by doing so? Again, I'm really interested in knowing more about it. and BTW I personally don't like modifying my cars either...
Ive modified and Ive left cars alone. In particular, I am referring to the newer cars seemingly having smaller tolerances for variance from what the systems expect. So a real world example: people who change the wheels/ tires on the cars and how that interacts with the stability and traction control systems. Among other metrics (I dont know all of them) the Ferrari system looks to the rotational difference front to rear. If the system detects too great a variance from what it’s expecting, then it will think the car has lost traction and it makes the car nearly undrivable. I’ve seen this happen to people with FF/Lusso who were wanting to change out different wheels and tires.
Totally agree. I have know that at least at country level the knowledge is there to ‘lower’ the vehicles on stock springs. That change needs translation through all the geometry of the wheels etc. Ferrari has so much data on what can or cannot be achieved that your first stop should be the dealer. Anything else has a element of risk given the overall complexity of the vehicle.
I'd never change wheels as I know how much this affects the handling. I do change tires every year for track use and during warm weather (from 4Ss to Cup2s, usually). But I was not aware the mod of the ride height or the use of Novitec's SS would impact that much.
