Ferrari F80

Not liking the design, or even the ethos, of a car is one thing. Not liking the actual car before driving it though makes no sense. I was in love with the F40, till I drove it... Granted, I was 10 years old when it came out and my rose-tinted glasses made me think that it would be a modern supercar even in 2010. Sadly, it was not...
In token of my personal experience, don't you think that you might actually like how these cars drive?

BYD is a global leader of electric vehicles and batteries; far from crap! They are cheap, but their technology rivals that of Teslas. Anyway, Ferrari;s ethos is far from dead, it won the Le Mans 24H in the past 2 years, in case you missed it.

 

No they arent however I would take a 288 OVER a F40 any day. Going v6 IMO is going backwards where as the previous 5 cars went one better all the time.

The F80 just looks like a LEGO car to me.

The F1 Maclaren will always be the car to beat and Gordon has revitalised it with the T50. These cars IMO dont need all the bits added to them like the F80. To me the T50 is my type of machine.

When Ferrari builds a light weight , even a V6 like the F80- one without Hybrid then maybe then Ferrari will perk up my curiosity again.

Coming around will be the new model 6 Cilindri !!! With bigger electrics then the 4 Cilindri with even bigger electric motors.

 

Again you are missing the point of the dead comment.

To me its drive and looks.

To me the Italia 458 , I hated it in the looks but drove great so never bought it. Speciale fixed all the crap things about the Italia yet I wasn't given an allocation.

488 GTB both looks and drive , I am happy. Again I wasnt given a Pista allocation so im with the 488 GTB.

296 is hybrid so Ferrari are dead to me. GAME OVER until they make a rear engine car without being a Hybrid.

 

Here is a point if I win tattslotto I will bribe anyone with a T50 allocation in a heart beat. The F80 nah, never

 

Okay, the marque might be dead to you (and a few others), but that does not apply to the vast majority of the clientele, as proven by the sales. I understand that looks are important to you, but keep in mind that the partisan 458 crowd will come after you in relation to your comments about the Italia. Myself? I am a simple man, not too hang on looks (as long as they are not hideous), but on the performance and the driving experience instead.

 

Vote accordingly

 

Permanent thread ban on Astrid.didier for trolling.

“Trolling. Haven’t seen any positive posts from you in a long time this thread or many of the last 5-6 cars from Ferrari. This is a Ferrari forum. You’ve said your piece move on to the cars that you like in other sections or get thread bans there too.”

Robb

 

Half million per "cilindri"

 

Im unsure whether to answer you as you’re really stressing out over any thought that Ferrari could have got it wrong in any way.
I know you mentioned previously youre not a Ferrari salesman, but cmon you must hold a position in Ferrari somewhere to be so defensive over every little thing. Lets hear it! Its fine if you are btw.
Anyway i know this isn’t going to go down well, but im sure that new lambo v8 has much more in it. So Ferrari could have put an 8 in this, or a 12. Theres more to a car than just numbers on a piece of paper.

 

Having a different opinion compared with you is being defensive ?
Truth is F80 is unfairly bashed since it’s reveal on this same forum by people considering that their opinion is the only right one.
I’m amazed by the radicalism of some as if their life was in jeopardy..

 

I dont know. I know i wouldnt even if i had a lazy 7m.
Im feeling pretty good about my incoming 296 though.

 

Your retort to my structured line of argument is suggesting that I am affiliated to Ferrari? An ad hominem attack? Really? So you prefer a worse engine, just because it has more cylinders? Quite funny.

 

Retort? Ok im out. Waaay too sensitive over others opinions inc my own. I wasn’t referencing the car as a kego or dissing it other than pointing out its a ton of money for a car with a v6 in it. Halo cars usually use the 12 cyl engines. V8 would be good too. Better than a v6 for this level of coin.

 

So, if it had an 800 HP V8, instead of a 900 HP V6, you would be happier? No animosity, just trying to understand what is the problem with the V6.

 

No problem at all with the V6. Great motor. Just feel that if i was ponying up 4 mil ( or is is 7?) ah who cares anyway - would expect a 12 or 8 in it. Also think you’re short changing lambos v8 as it would have more to give if they wanted it. But im talking not about fitting a lambo v8 but Ferrari using their v8, fettling it up more so it revs highet and makes more hp than the 6, then put that in or the 12. The 6 just seems a bit weak for a halo car at this money. Just my opinion. Not bashing.

 

Okay, I see where you are coming from. Ferrari probably wanted to highlight the F1 and WEC connection to their halo car though.

 

Maybe. The car is clearly a technical tour de force anf be super quick but as i mentioned before theres more to just big numbers on a sheet of paper. The emotional experience people will be paying heavily for here would imo be more emotional with a v12 or high rpm v8 in it. That is unless theyve muted this car so it sounds piss weak no matter whats in it.

 

Although you did not ask me, I take the liberty to throw in my opinion.
Yes, I personally would rather want that 800 hp V8, instead of an embarrassing 900 hp V6. And yes, I've driven 296's and yes, I didn't like it, engine wise.
Just my 0.2 cents.

Marcel Massini

 

There is a limit to the noise level anyway, EU mandated. This particular V6 sounds pretty nice though. They call it the "little V12". A bit of a stretch, but sounds nicer than some V8s.


@Marcel Massini : Your opinion, as our resident historian, is always welcome, sir.

 

Seems Ferraris levels are lower than anyone elses, or maybe its just not that imported to THEM anymore. Funny how Lambo, Mac, Porsche can still all manage a pretty decent volume to their note.
Agree its no v12 which is precisely why the v12 or 8 is more appropriate. The 6 to my ears definitely doesnt sound as good as Pists. F8 maybe but that was really quiet and asthmatic so not a fair comparison. The 6 is acceptable but im not raving by any stretch. Picolo v12? Whatever that means lol. Just a marketing buzz word to soften up taking the 8 away.

 

Yes, F1 cars have a single turbo today, due to rules imposition, otherwise they all had two.

But Ferrari F1 engine type 021 from 1981 had two turbochargers between the banks, 6 cylinders with a 120 degree angle between the two banks and 900 hp (at the end of 1983) in race mode settings (1050 in single qualifying lap setting). It was an 1.5 liters and not 3, but it reminds me something...

And let me say that a car with two eturbo, three liters, 300 hp/liter, 9000+ RPM rev limiter setting and zero lag is a state of the art jewel.

This F80 is not much elegant? I was here when the F40 came out: it was aggressive, powerful, intimidating, it was everything but elegant

Thanks to Ferrari for still building dreams like that.


Ciao

 

Downforce comparison based on the fact that downforce increases at the square of speed:

F80: 1050 kg @ 250 km/h

W1: 1000 kg @ 280 km/h
=> 797 kg @ 250 km/h

=> F80 generates around 32% more downforce at the same speed.

 

You can make the same comment for the top and bottom end of the Ferrari 250 family…I think it is the wrong way to look at it

 

Keep in mind that every new car sounds more subdued, due to the regulations. The 12 Cilindri has the 812 engine, but is a bit quieter outside. Inside, the "hot tube" takes care of that.

True, but we are talking about today.

 

I just read the whole thread. It's 5:55 AM Mountain Time here, so I started in the middle of the night.

I don't hate it or think it's ugly (Like I think the 288GTO and F40 are ugly). But it doesn't do anything for me.

F50 wiped me out, and it's still my favorite halo car. Wouldn't kick an Enzo out of my garage, though.

No problem with a TT V6, really, as my Ford F-150 Raptor has one and it's amazing! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Still love my 2000 360 Modena manual, so I'm good.