Would you buy EAG conversion

You're also probably not going to get OEM feel with parts that look that different like the EAG gate on the right vs OEM on the left. Since you probably have little experience with CNC machining, I'll let you in on a little secret. If you can see it is off with the naked eye, it's WAY OFF. Where I work, some of our tolerances go down to microns or .0001 inches. I can't think of a single feature on any of our product lines, which I have worked on for over a decade, where being so far off would be even remotely acceptable.

I'm not going over all of this again with you until you can provide some actual objective reasoning for EAG having a better product besides not having a bad experience being used to justify it being better. Tons of Dr. S and Modena Lucerna people had great experiences too.

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I have a factory 360, scud with oem parts, and 430 with eag. No difference amongst them other than the 430 doesn’t suffer from the cold second gear shift.

 

Sounds like something you came up with to bash on EAG to be honest. And your aggressive approach just confirms it. There are many of us that haven’t had a single issue with an EAG conversion. Later iterations are probably even better. The most important factor is who did the conversion. I would not touch a DIY conversion no matter the maker, even if it was OEM (as many wrongfully think this is the best option).

I chose a really good specialist to do my conversion and I think that this has made all the difference.

 

My gate doesn’t look like this. It looks like this. But yes, I got this gate last year from EAG. Before that I had one that resembled the one that you posted above. That also worked flawlessly for three years. Wasn’t the most beautiful one but my kit was an early one.


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I should also mention that this gate didn’t improve anything apart from being more pleasant to the eye. I got it free of charge from EAG.

 

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I've had both on my EAG conversion. The one to the right gives you more clank clank with the shifting. OEM is far less. Not sure if deliberate but both work fine. I have no complaints in four years (so far) with my EAG conversion. I swapped for better look.

 

I just don't understand any expensive headache conversions on Ferraris. If you like manuals, there are plenty of models with high numbers of factory manual cars.[/QUOTE]

Yes, one million percent.

Probably. Seems like a cool spite project just to outrage the garden-variety Originalisti, actually. Doing it on YouTube would make it even more fun. If only I had the garage skills for that... * sigh * well... dreams.

There is no one on earth stupid enough to do this... is there??

 

what if you could buy one already converted

what if you could buy one that was already converted at the same price as (all other things being equal) another car in F1?

 

Drove mine all day today. F1 is far less involved and almost a bore.

 

I'm an oddball who likes the F1, at least in my 430. However, I would definitely convert a 360 if I stumbled across an amazing deal on one. It's great that the option to convert exists.

 

Agree with those that would buy a factory manual car over a conversion. But for those cars where manual was not an option, then either 'suffer' with an F1 gearbox or get a conversion. Challenge Stradale's were never on my radar because they only came with F1. Now that conversions are more readily available and shops have more experience, it was a no brainer. As far as EAG, I've never heard anything negative about the hardware itself. But the company is a hot mess.

 

One problem with that... The buyer of a converted car already probably paid a hefty premium upon purchase. Now if there are another $5K to $10K in repairs/replacement parts, that's adding quite a bit to the price tag.

Other options...

 

I've driven one. It's not.
F1 for me.

PS: I've driven stick Porsche 911s all my life.

 

Not always about raw speed.

 

^^^ this, absolutely
I have owned stick 911's. Super fast non gated shifts. And on a side note, the Tiptronic paddle shift versions were actually slower than a stick car could be shifted on a professional test track.
Think about it... did Ferrari put a stick in the Challange cars or the Scuds-- their race going cars?

Let's be honest here, a stick in a 360 or 430 is for romance not performance.

 

Indeed that's what it's all about for me. I have four cars: '76 C3; '66 MGB; '07 F430 and '22 992S and they all have stick shifts. In my mind, a manual gearbox is more engaging than auto/paddle shift boxes.

Notably, I don't track my cars. So shifting speed and efficiency inherent, in modern auto/paddle shift boxes, are not important criteria to me. Instead what's important is the engagement that manual boxes afford. But as always, to each their own.

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I get it, the F1 can be clunky when driven to cars and coffee, but that's not what it was designed for. It was at track speeds and corners that solidified for me that I'd never consider manual swapping my 430. I understand the current demand for the gated nostalgia, but I would not be shocked to see people putting their cars back to stock someday.

 

Oh I know. That's why I have a car almost as old as I am

 

You are correct. The window was small-- and it has improved. Plus to add, my 360 F1 is a 2003 with the latest iteration of the TCU-- not the Challenge TCU but still pretty nice quick shifts up and down without all that heel/toe stuff of a stick.

 

I wish I was that young...

 

... because tiptronic is based on an automatic gearbox, it's neither a robotised manual nor a PDK/DCT.

 

I sure would because the F1 is expensive to maintain and there is no real world benefit of it over a manual, even a converted one. The number of specialists that know how to adjust the PIS is getting smaller every year and the parts are getting more expensive and harder to source. The F1 gearbox was a beta gearbox, let's be honest.