296 VS

Prediction: The 296 VS is going to be the best Ferrari VS launched this decade. It’s going to take an already beautiful and fun car and add raw racer elements to it. This car will be the actual spiritual successor to the 360 Challenge Stradale. It will look like a proper Ferrari ( unlike the F80 ) and will be properly racey and butch like the P 80 C and will have a BETTER sounding engine than the F80 despite being under tough regs and will be way better looking and better driving than the let’s all admit it … tarted up and forced SF 90 XX.

 

You are a dreamer, I think everyone should drive an SF90 XX themselves before judging. The car is breathtaking and then there's the powerful V8 engine. No V6 can keep up with that. Only 799 units and an exciting design. A 296 has an exhaust sound like a 3 cylinder high revving engine. You should stick to the facts and not become a dreamer.

 

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Your opinion is very harsh, the SF90xx is absolutely a great car and of course the V8 will have more power than a V6 of the 296VS, but the SF90 lacks in weight and dynamism, in my opinion it is much less fun.....if I compare the SF90 Fiorano and 296 Fiorano I would have no doubts about what to choose, in fact I sold the SF90 and kept the 296...... much more fun for me ..... if things go hand in hand... again my opinion

 

The V6 sounds better too. Just the way it is.

 

Can't imagine any SF90XX owner (potential or otherwise) posting such inflammatory nonsense. Do you own an SF90XX or, just dream of such?

 

Back to the 296 VS- my own guess- when I think about what they will do- I think they have to do something different. If they make a car in the mold of the SF90XX, then they are just getting too close to the SF90 in terms of performance and also list price. I think they should go a different direction and make the car lighter, simpler, and an even more focused driving experience. The message should be the 296 GTB/GTS is for your daily enjoyment, and this is for special occasions/ weekends. if they use the XX name then it should be limited numbers.

 

The problem is that they want to actually remove the differences, it's just about price and exclusivity. That's why they have people first buying the GTB, then a percentage "upgrading" to the GTS, then another percentage "upgrading" to the VS.
Logically, people wanting a berlinetta, a spider or a track oriented version should not be the same; by erasing the differences (which is why their so-called track oriented cars are not so appealing if the goal is to track) they want all cars to fit all customers, the difference only being in the customers' buying power. And ideally, the customers do not care about what car they buy, they just spend as much as they can for a luxury indulgence.
I'm not a big fan of this business model, as the astute reader would have understood

 

Not as the XX, the exhaust sound has become much throatier. The 296 doesn't sound better, that's a fact, if that's the case then your XX has a defect.

The precision with which the SF90 XX turns into bends and accelerates out of bends is like something else, and the 296 doesn't stand a chance, but neither does any other car.

 

I'm not a fan of speculation and opinions without having driven the cars and some of the statements here are really head shaking. I only judge what I drive myself.

 

I don’t have one, for some reason. Big market in SoCal I guess. I’m not impressed with the sf90’s sound, though the shifts in the XX sound more like they should. I do like that aspect from what I’ve heard. I prefer the sound of the 296. It’s creamy and smooth, and rather unique. For whatever reason, it reminds me of the 458. I wasn’t a fan of the Pista sound either, so a TTv8 in modern times just doesn’t do it for me. You enjoy it though.

 

I noticed you’ve evaded answering my question.
So again i ask do you own an SF90xx? Have you ever driven one? Specifically.

 

what is base price fro SF90 XX? and what would be for 296 VS?

 

I am interested in this thread, I moved from a 360 > Scud > 458 > 488 > F8 and STO and now have a SF90. I can not wait to see what is next for the 296 version. I would love to be on the list for a SF90xx, (but was not considered (which sucks). I love the sf90, what an amazing car and looking forward to getting more info on the 296 (xx or whatever they call it)

 

If you read a lot of the above, you will need to have a 296 in your garage to be considered.

 

I have heard that you need to have a 296 to be considered, however, you never know so strange things have happened. My understanding a lot of people have been passing out the 296 , Including myself. It would be hard to hand them the keys to an F 90 to pick up a 296. I don’t care what the promises are. That would be made. if I was able to get a 296XX, I would really consider it again. I’m just trying to find information out on the car

 

Not sure I follow? There are 37 pages of rumors/info. It’s an unreleased car and anyone that has real info would be under an NDA.

 

I've heard the same, this was true for SF90XX from my dealer, you had to be in physical possession on a SF90 at the time of handover to get an XX. They believe the same for 296VS. This is one way to improve the 296 used market, by keeping the numbers available lower, by ensuring 296 owners want to keep theirs until VS delivery

 

However it may be even worse for the 296 used market after the 296 VS begins to be delivered. Another question is, if the market is really turning around, how sucessful the 296 will be ?

 

Yes, hence my perhaps somewhat unfriendly answer. But everyone should drive the cars before judging. SF90 XX is madness, no comparison to the standard SF90, a completely different car and with a lot emotions.

 

Agreed! - once out and deliveries take place the used 296 market will increase alot!

 

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Congrats on SF90xx - im sure it cost you a packet and no doubt is by far a more attractive and exciting proposition than any sf90 has proven to be, going by all accounts to date!
However, the topic here is 296vs and, considering 296 has already been rated the more exciting and better sounding than sf90, its fair to say 296vs is likely to uphold that position given Ferrari has used the same engine in the latest halo car - and not the V8 - meaning performance will be there regardless, and hopefully with an even more improved soundtrack!
As you haven’t driven 296vs, yet maintain without driving a car there is no point speculating, its fair to say your postings on this thread have so far been somewhat contradictory and, premature in judgement.
Chances are, 296vs will (once again) take the limelight away from 296xx given it will likely be lighter, thus even more focused and, more exciting as a car overall - it wouldn’t surprise me.
Lookswise it may also take the prize.
I personally like the SF90 xx over a 296 ( notwithstanding its hugely expensive for what it is) but if 296 sv ends up being the better package overall for less $ than sf90xx, then as has been the case with SF90, xx is unlikely to retain the same desirability or, value. Time will tell. But my money is on 296vs ftw.

 

Agreed with above ^. This is a 296 VS thread. SF90XX doesn’t have any relevance here. And it’s a completely different type of car.

 

Except they are both special models of the base model, and both SF90 and 296 are born out of the single model V8 range.

Comparing 296 and SF90, I would rather drive the SF90, it’s more fun for me. But I cannot argue to anyone that one is objectively better than the other. This is about what fits you best. I am concerned if they do as @LVP488 astutely predicts, then the meaning between both model lines will become further confused- which does not help anyone.