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Value-wise, tell me about a fully repainted Ferrari

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  1. PeterS

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    Ups the value? Decreases the value? Do buyers want original paint or is a professionally done paint job of the original color a plus?
     
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  2. Ferrari 360 CS

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    I think it would depend, a repainted 308 is perhaps less of an issue than say a fully repainted 488. The latter I think would be a case of full repaint negatively affecting value, whereas the former could be seen as the result of 40 years of wear and tear and thus perhaps considered expected for the age of the vehicle.
     
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  3. Rifledriver

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    How big is a ball of string? A repainted F8 is a big negative. Every 250 GTO has been repainted and it has not hurt them.
    Narrow the parameters if you want valid responses.
     
  4. technom3

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    Depends on the model/vintage.

    Depends why it was painted

    Depends if it was a color change.

    Depends if the glass came out and every single piece of rubber was replaced and replaced properly.

    Party of the issue with repainting is the paint can NEVER adhere to the body as well as the paint applied at the factory (unless it's a GM product in which case water colors will do just fine)
     
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    I also like "How tall is a tree?" when clients ask vague questions.

    Buyers want original paint but I would think there's a 5-10% delta if the repaint is well done. As Brian noted the newer the car, the more red flags, but anything over say 20 years old I wouldn't care as much. Sometimes you have cars with decent paint that's just on the cusp of not being aesthetically good enough but also probably too nice to strip off and start over.

    Like my TR, some panels are 9/10 and some are 6/10 and frankly I fantasize about stripping and painting it something like azzurro California or even a light blue/aqua that fits the 80s period [I've been in a retro/synthwave phase since the pandemic] but anachronistic or off-catalog for Ferrari.

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  6. Sigmacars

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    This is a beautiful Color on that TR
     
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  7. Texas Forever

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    For older cars, the rule of thumb was paint it whatever you like, but period correct colors are preferred.

    On newer cars, the fear is you are hiding crash damage.

    That said, the factory paint on my Challenge Stradale was so thin there were places that looked like undercoat.
     
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  8. Ffre92

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    I actually like the patina on older Ferraris. Unless it was a glaring problem like a big ugly scratch, I would prefer the paint to be original and weathered. The repaint would not be worth the extra 30k put into it imho. I certainly would not pay a premium for one.

    i remember seeing a black 512bbi, paint was really rough, had spider webs. I thought it was absolutely perfect.
     
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    There is a 'rat rod irony' that we take old cars and repaint them to remove the patina then take new cars and wrap them with fake patina and rust wraps to look old and rusty.
     
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    Didn't they say that saved like 8lbs of paint weight? :D:D $2k worth of Ozempic/Monjaro would be a better investment for most of us. Almost as goofy as the Porsche sticker badges for weight savings. That's the trick?!
     
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    One track day cost $1,000 to have the bumper resprayed.
     
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    I agree. "They're only original once" is a phrase I've heard often.

    My 328 had a visible paint flaw on the rear passenger side quarter panel, but it was a factory artifact so never bothered me. My '93 911 has several old rock chips, but overall the original paint is great.
     
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    Porsche has a long history of garbage paint products. The 328 was painted with the highest quality paint nearly any car company ever used. 812s will need repaints before many 328s will.
     
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    Please don't tell me Porsche's speed yellow is a garage paint. I love speed yellow!
     
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    me too! Puts a smile on my face just looking at it
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  17. BenB

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    In most cases, a professionally done repaint does not hurt the value, but generally won't raise the value as much as it costs.

    My 308 had obviously been involved in some sort of front end bump before I bought it, which I obviously knew. The whole car had also been repainted at a point prior to that, and it wasn't the best quality. For me, it was an easy decision to strip it to bare metal & see what I had underneath, and then do a quality repaint. I'm not so sure that I'd be able to recoup the cost, but it definitely raises the value from where it was when I purchased it.

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    I was also very happy to see the extent of damage hidden under that paint and have the opportunity to fix it right. I think documenting it with photos, including many of the entire body stripped down to bare metal, is a big plus. Future buyers can see that it's truly a no-rust, no issues body.

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    There's a good video on YouTube of a guy who stripped the paint off his car & discovered about a 5-gallon bucket of filler had been used on it. THAT's scary stuff when you're buying a used car!

    Oh, and I'm going back with the original color in a modern paint. I think the value will be enhanced well above what I paid for the car, but probably a little less than an original paint car in excellent condition.
     
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    Hi Peter
    Depends on the car. Depends on the age.
    Most of the vintage stuff has been painted several times. Pretty rare to find an original paint job on a 40+ year old car.
    You've seen my C/4.... painted in the early 90's in the UK... stripped to bare metal and still looks fabulous. I don't care if it isn't original.
    I had a '77 308 GTB back in 1996 with original paint. Given the condition of the paint, no problem to repaint the car. Never did it as I couldn't afford to at the time.
    Tell us what car you are referring to for a better response.
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  19. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    That split bumper cover is most likely a rust problem. See it all the time.
     
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    A repaint because of an accident is the only thing that would bother me. A quality job to change color or even to (correctly) repair 45 year old rust issues is more of a plus for me.
     
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    To me it's obvious that someone backed into the right front corner of the car, tearing the plastic of the bumper and damaging the nose panel slightly.
    Are you saying that the split rubber happened because of rust, or that the bumper will now be prone to rust?
    There's no rust in the car. We've been through it extensively.

    ... anyway, back on topic. I think a repaint with plenty of good photos documenting what's under the paint is a big plus, especially when the original paint isn't quality or attractive.
     
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    A split bumper cover from rust in that exact spot is very common. Mine did it. Many threads here including one with a very impressive restoration.

    Water gets in around the parking light lense, rusts the metal below it causing the rubber to tear.
     
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    I sold my dad's Porsche Roadster 15 years ago... Jay Leno looked at it, and asked if it had ever been repainted... I said yes, once back in the 60's and again in the early 80's to cover some blisters... he passed on it because it was not original paint. he wanted one that was cracks and all. the gent who bought the car only cared about rust, vs. originality.... so it depends on the buyer more than anything.
     
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    You are assembling quite the collection!
     
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    The paint on my manual 430 spider is near perfect, which is a shame because I fantasise about repainting it in a cool azzurro or a rosso metalizzato..would look so much better than fine but a bit ho hum grigio Silverstone. But I probably won't because of the value thing. Shame.
     

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