Anyone having problems with the 296?

Sorry to hear about this.

 

Sounds stressful and upsetting especially the part about the wife proving herself correct - they can have a tendency of rubbing it in at the worst possible time unfortunately. If they've finally offered the return of the car at the price you paid that's a good start. Surely they recognise you're still getting the GTS? That should maintain the VS allocation unless they are just saying that hoping you decline their offer. The impression my dealer gave at time of my GTS order was VS allocation for 296 buyers was not an issue.

 

I bought a 2023 296GTS demo from the dealer for 25K over list with 900 miles. I had nothing but trouble with it. The check engine light went on three times, the car made creaking noises that ended up being related to sway bars, the windshield made a tapping noise with the top down, the haptic controls were sometimes unresponsive, the gas cap cover would pop open while driving, and the windshield wiper cover somehow got detached. Otherwise - great car! Despite all this, I love the car - maybe not that one, but the 296 GTS in general. Amazing driving experience. Crazy fast. I ended up trading it back to the dealer after 90 days for a 2022 F8 Spider plus check for $25K (what I overpaid on the demo). I ordered a new 296 GTS which I believe will be a 2025 model and I'm hoping they resolve these kinds of issues. Either that or the demo was a lemon. I learned two things.... don't buy a Ferrari demo and don't buy the first production car of a new platform (which demos tend to be). Give them a year or two to resolve issues they find from the bleeding edge people driving the car.

 

We shall see, at this point I have no expectations. Either I will be pleasantly surprised, or I don’t get offered anything more and the Atelier GTS is the end of my road. I came to terms with a possible blacklist when I decided to follow through on the buyback, but then if they would knowingly deliver me a defective car, I didn’t mean s*** to them as a customer in the first place.

Again, it arrived with 132 miles and FNA told my dealer it was due to needing an “alignment” after shipping. I don’t believe that anymore. I suspect that in post production shakedown - which took several months at stage 70 before it was finally shipped, instead of what I read here it’s just a couple of days - they knew there was something up but they just cleared the codes and put it in a container for the dealer to eventually sort out.

 

would you order another new one in same color?

 

No, Monaco is great but it wasn’t what I really wanted, either.
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It was a compromise on price, when in 2023 it was $16,800 and azzurro California and Celeste were both jacked into the $32k tier. Of course they got me because after signing the final lock-in build contract Monaco went to $37k and no one told me until it arrived.

So I paid more for my third choice color.

 

Hi my dealer also only told me when the car arrived that the price had risen by 8% for the car as a result of the retail price increase. I studied the sale contract and took informal advice from my solicitor and we came to the conclusion that, according to the terms of their sales contract, it was their duty to inform me of any price increases before delivery and I could choose not to take delivery if I felt the price was not workable and get my deposit back. They backed down and gave me the car at the agreed price as per the sales contract. Not sure what USA sales contract says but that was what mine said in UK. It’s a shame that in essence when you order a Ferrari, it’s pretty much guaranteed that the price will be higher than when ordered due to the long lead time between order and delivery. I was lucky that the car arrived 8 months after I ordered and paid deposit. Sorry you have had such a bad experience.

 

In the US its normal not to know the real price of your Ferrari until it arrives at the dealer and the dealer sees the paperwork from Ferrari. That has happened to us on 4 different new Ferrari deliveries.

 

My dealer also tried to pull a price increase on me. Had it in email the discounted negotiated price will be fixed for delivery, so told them they can stick to that or refund my deposit.

It’s not the hot car market of the past, but understandably they must pull it or leave money on the table.

There’s also cars I tried negotiating on 2 new cars back in Feb, one of them got sold for less than my offer as it became a demo, the other is still sitting available.

 

Here they do make you sign the agreement with a clause saying you will pay retail price at time of delivery but there is also a clause that mentions that they must inform you of a price increase whenever this takes place.

 

They threw the former GM under the bus saying he got an email about the price increase after I signed, and didn't tell me.

 

They blamed it on the guy who no longer worked there? Is this placed staffed by children?

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Thanks to those that answered my question....I stayed with my GTS purchase. The App finally updated and now have a VIN number.

 

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So have problem with my 296 in July the day before I was going to Monaco/Cannes from Norway and had ordered transport to pick up my car and this problems started:



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I sent the car to dealer and asked them to check and give me feedback, I always got some issue from hybrid system but that I know how to take away (drive some in fully electric mode and then start after battery empty and get the car to charge up would sort it out).

But this time the car gave me insane lot of error and the car drove on less cylinders, never had happened before.

So the dealer came back to me and said the car drove less cylinders and they had found out there is issue with the electric injectors. And they asked factory to send new electric injectors.

At this time Im so happy I just sold the car back to dealer for insane less price, I lost around 100K USD under 1 year on the car, I did some upgrades like carbon seats + carbon diffuser +++ (all factory parts). If I take that into this I think lost over 150K.. I drove the car and I liked the car a lot..

But after the sale I did not miss it, in that periode of time I also sold my 2x 355s, I miss those cars a lot the second I sold them.

I drove the 296 a lot, like over 20k KM, but its strange I never missed it when its gone.

 

Are you happy to lose €150,000? For that amount, you could drive the car for the next five years. I think this has nothing to do with the 296, as this decision is based purely on your personal opinion. And as you say: Electric Injectors has nothing to do with Hybrid.

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Anyone bought 296 for 1 year ago will lose money just like me, I see insane a lot of cars advertising, but they dont sell for the AD price. The price will be a lot under the ADs, there are just too much of this cars out there. Im not happy lose 150K. If I kept the car for lets say 4 more years for sure would lost 150k more

 

At the moment, interest rates are high, and the economy is weak. In Italy and France, however, things are already going very well again. There are still many speculators for the 296 GTB. You just need to wait until they’re gone. Even the 812 and F8 are currently losing value. Rolex, for example, has been losing value for nearly two years but has started recovering over the last eight weeks. You just need to be patient. The next cars will become significantly more expensive. The 296 will soon be in high demand. Additionally, the opinion that hybrids are bad needs to finally disappear. This view is mostly held by older people. However, Ferrari is targeting a younger buyer demographic.

 

GTB in high demand…idk.

 

GTB is not in high demand plus priced way higher..
Once replacement comes for GTB everyone will want next best thing... Circle of Life

 

What you can see on the F8. Higher priced as 296. So its not right in this case.

I wrote that demand increases when people find out that the next model costs 80,000 Euros more. The same happened with the transition from the F8 to the 296. But in all cases, the speculators has to go first, followed by people who buy these cars without actually having the financial means to afford them. That is my opinion. If you have an other opinion, just write. Two sentence or five words dont help.

 

There are already models that are more expensive than the 296 (SF90 / SF90 XX) so expecting that the introduction of a more expensive model will boost demand for the 296 is wishful thinking IMHO.
There are signs of people worldwide getting bored by all the luxury hype, and increasing prices and volumes simultaneously is likely to reach some limits.

 

Agree.
And love the more sentences.

 

That's wrong in my opinion - Ferrari and Lamborghini go both the same way. Away from Gucci and Louis Vuitton customers to Hermes, Chanel and Patek Philippe customer. Ask your dealer. They built 12.000 cars for 8 Billion people. Check the price from the F80 and if they are all sold. And how many don't get a car. But I will finish this threat for me now and come back to the main reason with: Problems with the 296.

I also appreciate your opinion

 

My car ev only range in the city is only 13km. When I leave my home for the Eurotunnel, it’s 13km to the 50mph zone, before it’s mostly 20 and some 30. The range will show 2 dashes about 1km before the 50 zone where I manually turn on the engine.

I know that’s not the point of the car, but electric cars have way better range in the city yet the 296 has 4x worse consumption in the city than my tesla at highway speeds.

I don’t know how Ferrari got it certified for 25km of range if under almost ideal conditions it’s half.