Sultan of Brunei's Car Collection

GHG · Nov 25, 2024

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Wow. Who posted these?

marko.urbac · Nov 26, 2024

These are 2020 leaked pictures and should have never been posted. The ones I posted here are from 2001.

dinoSP · Nov 26, 2024

2020 pics MUST be deleted ! No authorisation to publish them !!

HighOnThunder · Nov 26, 2024

Citronella said: ↑

Well its been ages since i last logged on here and WOW...some interesting stuff, basman your knowledge is amazing...where do you find the time!! and chilidog you mad skating hero, how the hell are ya? No i didnt work at the bognor place but i remember sitting in the carbon merc batmoblie in Brunei..... it really was a waste of carbon fibre, it seriously did look **** and if batman seen it, he would for sure push it off Gotham Tower as no super hero would look cool in this thing that looked soooooo bad and square with caddy fins flaring off the rear. When one of the other spanners told me where to find it i was sooo dissapointed! i was expecting something that looked like the Michael Keaton Batmoblie.....ohhhhhhhhh it was more like the Adam West Batmobile but worse...and that car was bad! I never got a chance to photo that car.....my camera batteries just couldnt muster the 0.01 volt to charge the flash to photograph something sooooo stupid! ops, if the person who penned that car is reading this then i hope your job at Kettle-Plastic-Mouldings is secure....as your last attempt at designing a car fit for a super hero was as inspiring as the boil i have on my ass!

Does anyone have any info on the 308 Koenig special that was/is ? Was the complete nut and bolt restoration a waste of time?
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The infamous batmobile, here it finally is then.

HighOnThunder · Nov 26, 2024

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I did notice this:

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I mean, put on your tinfoil hat...
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After reading the thread some more I noticed that chilidog/eric had another stint on Fchat as black label, from Aug 20, 2007 to Aug 17, 2018.

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I have marked which garage was what will make out a list of what was where later
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I guess he didn't get spooked at all he just forgot his password or something. He was even encouraged by Citronella, who decided to post some pics.

Citronella said: ↑

Well i said i would'nt post any pics but i might as well show some which dont give too much away as they are under-exposed etc and sure to keep those who asked for pics happy...well at least for 2 minutes!! and massive Respect to chilidog - keep up the good work as no contract is worth the paper its written on..afterall to the one who calls himself Watchdog...its not military secrets, we are just a bunch of lads chewing the fat about cars and hardly the darkest secrets of brunei expenditure.

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blue F1 also signatured on pillars by the then Ferrari drivers
LongTail F1 with the slippy clutch
Garage4 which housed bulk ferrari, early 1997
F50 in supercar workshop
Dauer in supercar workshop
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BruNei_carFRe@K · Nov 26, 2024

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2020 pics MUST be deleted ! No authorisation to publish them !!
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Reminds me of Beyoncé who wanted her publicist to remove an unflattering picture of her from the web.

HighOnThunder · Nov 26, 2024

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Having spent 3 years working under the roof of House5 Royal Brunei, Pininfarina will indeed build u a RH drive enzo if so desired under their special projects dept, having drove the the F50 conversions during my time spent in brunei and they are in everyway as perfect as the OEM LHD version, they make sure its done from ground up, there's one slight problem thou! They are very reluctant to entertain such idea's for political reasons within the whole Ferrari/Pininfarina partnership, The Sultan of Brunei's requests wasnt taken lightly but then again he was buying Rari in bulk... no other customer has ever done that before nor do i think that will happen again, ive seen invoices from Pf to Sultan that makes the US cold war spy projects look cheap, its not something they do nowadays without serious discussions, but they will gladly entertain rich screwballs who wanna bling up there Raris to make them one offs, the Sultan stuff, some of which was totally bling but most ferrari projects where more changes to suit them for driven comfort and extra horse's than a all out pimp cruiser, or i could be wrong...give them a call if you have more than 50 trillion squillion litres of crude oil sitting under your garden!
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"But much of the BIA's money went to Prince Jefri. According to court documents, the prince spent $475 million on Rolls Royce cars, $78 million at Italian sports-car company Pininfarina SpA." from Sultan of Brunei's brother | FerrariChat

HighOnThunder · Nov 26, 2024

MoNd3sTo7 said: ↑

HRH Prince Jefri Bolkiah of Brunei once was one of the wealthiest men in the world. Now he's worried he may soon be homeless and forced into bankruptcy.
"They want me to give it all back," he says, flanked by giant Dutch landscape paintings and billowing gold drapery in the cavernous living room of his London villa, where he resides with one of his three wives and two of his 18 children. "We don't know where we are going to live."

Prince Jefri Bolkiah, the younger brother of the Sultan of Brunei and once one of the wealthiest men in the world, is worried he may soon be homeless and be forced into bankruptcy. WSJ's Mark Maremont reports. The 53-year-old younger brother of the Sultan of Brunei, Prince Jefri is on the losing end of one of the world's most colorful family feuds. It started a decade ago, when the prince was stripped of his government roles and later accused by Brunei authorities of misappropriating $14.8 billion of the royal treasury's money.

He denies that, but there's no doubt much had been expended on Prince Jefri's famously sybaritic lifestyle. The jet-setting prince bought mansions around the world, amassed a fleet of 1,700 luxury cars and acquired a 180-foot yacht that he named using a slang word for female breasts.

The Sultan since then has waged a legal siege on three continents to reclaim Prince Jefri's considerable riches. The Sultan scored a decisive victory late last year, when Britain's Privy Council -- which hears final legal appeals from Brunei, a former British protectorate -- ruled that the prince needed to abide by a 2000 agreement to return nearly all his remaining holdings.

On Tuesday, Prince Jefri effectively lost control of his most valuable remaining asset, the New York Palace Hotel, an opulent 55-story property formerly known as the Helmsley Palace. The Brunei government took ownership of the hotel following a New York court order. But the judge has restricted it from selling the property pending the outcome of further proceedings and the prince is disputing the change in control.

"Brothers should get along with each other," the New York judge, Justice Helen Freedman, admonished the lawyers for the warring royals at a recent hearing. Justice Freedman jokingly threatened to refer the case to a domestic-violence court.

Wealthy families often have squabbled over money. The Koch brothers of Kansas spent years in court in the 1980s and '90s, battling over their family's giant oil pipeline concern. In 2001, Chicago's Pritzker family decided to divvy up its $20 billion fortune after a bitter dispute among siblings and cousins. But Prince Jefri's experience represents one of the largest fortunes ever lost.

In the New York hearing, one of Prince Jefri's lawyers, Philip Le B. Douglas, likened the idea of Prince Jefri working for a living to Russian aristocrats who "froze to death" after being forced to sweep the streets without winter clothes following the 1917 revolution. The prince, Mr. Douglas said, "has had unimaginable wealth all of his life. Now he's going to go and bus tables?"

The Sultan's advisers have started legal proceedings to evict Prince Jefri from his London mansion, and the sides continue to wrangle over the fate of the Hotel Bel-Air, an upscale property in the Los Angeles hills still controlled by the prince.

"I spend too much time with lawyers," sighs Prince Jefri, a trim, soft-spoken man with a dapper moustache. He says he's "more or less agreed" to turn over the various assets, but is still hoping his brother the Sultan will let him keep enough money to maintain a more modest version of his prior lifestyle.

The government of Brunei doesn't seem inclined to go along. "Prince Jefri signed an agreement and he should stick to it," says Lindsay Marr, a London-based attorney for the Brunei Investment Agency, a government-owned fund. "Why should he be allowed to keep a large amount of money that wasn't his in the first place?"

Prince Jefri already has turned over billions of dollars worth of property, including the Plaza Athénée hotel in Paris, the giant yacht, the car collection, and more than 100 paintings by Picasso, Renoir, Modigliani and others. Late last year, he surrendered five rare diamonds, secured in a London vault, valued at roughly $200 million.

Situated in southeast Asia, Brunei is a small, oil-rich nation of 374,000 people on the northern coast of the island of Borneo, surrounded by part of Malaysia. The Sultan, Hassanal Bolkiah, is an absolute monarch who has ruled the Islamic enclave since 1967. Forbes ranks him as the world's wealthiest ruler, with an estimated fortune of $22 billion.

Prince Jefri -- whose full name is Duli Yang Teramat Mulia Paduka Seri Pengiran Digadong Sahibul Mal Pengiran Muda Haji Jefri Bolkiah -- is the youngest of the Sultan's three brothers. For many years, he was finance minister and chairman of the Brunei Investment Agency, which is charged with investing much of the country's wealth. Under Prince Jefri, some of the BIA's money went to improving infrastructure, he says.

But much of the BIA's money went to Prince Jefri. According to court documents, the prince spent $475 million on Rolls Royce cars, $78 million at Italian sports-car company Pininfarina SpA, and $900 million at British jeweler Asprey. He liked Asprey so much that in 1995 he bought the company, for $385 million. A firm owned by Prince Jefri paid $202 million for the Helmsley Palace hotel in 1993, using BIA funds.

The Bruneian royal aircraft fleet -- split between the Sultan and Prince Jefri -- contained 10 jets, including a Boeing 747 and an Airbus A-340, according to 1996 insurance documents. A 45-page list of individual recipients shows that scores of people benefited from Prince Jefri's generosity, from ministers to royal relatives to servants. One of Prince Jefri's fathers-in-law received $23 million in BIA funds; his badminton coach and acupuncturist each were paid $1.8 million.

Prince Jefri also amassed a world-class art collection. Under his tenure, the BIA paid $24 million for a Manet and $20.5 million for a Renoir, according to records filed in British court. The prince's favorite, though, was Edgar Degas: "I like the brilliant color and heavy stroke," he says. He bought at least 21 paintings by the French Impressionist artist, according to court documents.

Prince Jefri seems bewildered by the accusation that he misspent $14.8 billion. "It's not that easy to hide," he says. "I keep asking the lawyers, 'Where did it go?'"

Some of the Rolls Royce cars, he says, were used as a kind of "transport pool" for the 20-odd royal guest houses in Brunei. "We'd provide our guests with a car and a backup car, so they didn't have to rent from anybody."

The prince says his brother the Sultan was aware of much of the spending. For example, Prince Jefri says he spent several years building himself a sprawling beachfront palace in Brunei, with a sports complex. "He knew it was built," the prince says. "My civil list [government allowance] is only $20,000 U.S. per month. You can't build a house for that."

Prince Jefri says the Sultan would sometimes come over to his palace after one of their frequent badminton matches, and admire a newly-bought Picasso or Degas on the wall. "He'd say, 'Nice painting. Could you transfer this today?" to the Sultan's own palace -- a 1,788 room edifice that covers 49 acres.

Messages sent to officials in Brunei and its embassy in Washington seeking comment weren't returned.

In 1997, depressed oil prices triggered a financial crisis in Brunei. The Sultan's people brought in Arthur Andersen accountants to comb through the investment agency's books, leading to Prince Jefri's ouster.

Prince Jefri doesn't deny spending some of the BIA's money, but claims in court documents that the Sultan also received billions of dollars in "Special Transfers" from the government agency to his personal bank accounts. Britain's Privy Council, in its ruling last year, put the total at $8 billion.

At one point, Prince Jefri said in an affidavit, the Sultan asked him to set up a bank account under a pseudonym, "so that the monies would not be traced to His Majesty or [appear] to have originated from the BIA." The prince said that $700 million was transferred to the Sultan this way in a single transaction.

Responding to Prince Jefri's allegations about the Sultan's finances, a lawyer acting for the Brunei government said in a 2005 affidavit that they were "irrelevant" and didn't constitute a defense against claims that the prince had purchased assets for his own benefit with state funds.

In May 2000, Prince Jefri agreed to settle the misappropriation charges that Brunei brought against him, avoiding any possibility of criminal prosecution. In return for the prince's agreement to hand over nearly all of his wealth, the government pledged to let Prince Jefri keep an official and a private residence in Brunei, and agreed to set up a $200 million trust fund to cover certain of his liabilities, but not his living expenses.

Both sides accuse the other of breaching the pact. The Brunei government says Prince Jefri has refused to return the most valuable overseas possessions, including the London villa, a sumptuous residence in Paris's Place Vendôme, a Cayman Islands trust fund with more than $100 million in cash, and the two U.S. hotels. In total, the assets likely are worth more than $1.5 billion.

Prince Jefri says he shouldn't have to surrender those assets until he's sure the Brunei government will live up to its end of the bargain. The government currently controls his homes in Brunei, and there is a dispute over which ones it is obliged to return to the prince. He maintains that his official residence is the beachfront palace he built, known as Assana. The Brunei government disagrees, saying a smaller residence is the prince's official one.

In any case, Prince Jefri says regaining the Brunei palaces won't do him much good. In exile since 2004, he says he can't return to his native land and "it's hard to sell that kind of house in Brunei." He'd rather have their value in cash.

Prince Jefri also worries about whether the Brunei government will live up to its promise to pay a big capital-gains tax due from the transfer of the New York Palace Hotel. "I will probably have to go bankrupt" if it doesn't, he says.

Mr. Marr, the London lawyer, says the Brunei government is obliged under the settlement to cover those taxes "and intends to do so." He also says he knows of no reason why Prince Jefri can't return to Brunei.

Prince Jefri's living expenses are considerable. He's married to three women and divorced from two others. His fifth wife, the former Claire Kelly, is a New Zealand native. They have two young boys, who live with their mother in St. John's Lodge, the London villa.

Prince Jefri says he worries about paying for the studies of his many children, some of whom are studying abroad. "Some of the mothers will be able to afford the children, some not." Court records say that his first four wives received a total of $158 million of BIA funds over the years, although the Brunei government may have reclaimed some of that.

Asked how many mothers there are, the prince starts ticking them off: "There's one in Singapore, one in the Philippines, one in England, one in Las Vegas...." He counts seven in all. "I just want some income to move on and look after the children," he says.

On a recent day, Prince Jefri gives a tour of St. John's Lodge, an imposing white villa dating to the early 19th century, situated inside Regent's Park. The prince's polo boots and mallets are laid out on the table in the formal dining room, which could easily seat 40 people. A child's train set has taken over a sitting room, and strollers are pushed to a corner in the magnificent front hall, where a bodyguard hovers. Portraits of the Sultan and the Sultan's wife sit on a side table.

"It's just a matter of time" before the family has to leave, the prince says.

While in Brunei, Prince Jefri says his favorite car to drive was a Ferrari 550, a sleek sports coupe that he would take for a spin late at night when the roads were quiet. Now, he says, "I like the Mini." He drives a black one around London.
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To be honest I find the debauchery more fascinating than the actual cars.

Mark Blanchard · Nov 26, 2024

Charlea said: ↑

Can anyone provide clarity as to why the 2001 photos were kept private for so long after they were originally shared? It seems to have stirred some people up that the photos were released, including the Prince of Johor. You would think as one community all devoted to shedding more light into what exists behind closed doors inside the Brunei collection that photos like these would have been incredibly useful to those wanting to get involved with making sense of the entire collection, but instead these photos were hidden away from the public eye by other Brunei investigators for years, allowed only for those who were privileged enough to be able to see. It kind of defeats the purpose as to why everyone works relentlessly to find and share old photos and information relating to the collection you think? Was there some sort of pressure by the auction networks or the royal family itself to not share the photos? Or were people just coveting the photos as to not cause a flood of new info much like what is happening now? Either way, I think that this photo drop is one of the greatest things to happen for everyone involved in the hunt for more relating to the Brunei collection. I’ve seen dozens upon dozens of repeated questions that people frequently ask about the collection that can be finally answered with the photos that are now public. Is it really beneficial towards the community to covet photos such as these ones?
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If you worked for Amedeo Development corp you signed a confidentiality agreement. You were not allowed to take photos or not allow to talk to anyone about what you were doing for the Brunei Royal family.

I worked for Amedeo in Brunei the late 90s and was lucky enough to see many of these cars entering and leaving RBPC 5 garages. But I didn't take any photos because you weren't allowed to.

willcrook · Nov 26, 2024

marko.urbac said: ↑

I was surprised and a bit shocked by the photos leaked by Taffy out of the blue... but they are out and gone viral. It's now too late to stop the avalanche, since I think also the Google Drive link has been leaked... to be fair I think there are multiple Google Drive links active today (copies of the original folders being re-uploaded). This myth has been busted now.

The next big thing would be the F1 museum, underneath the "glass house" or Garage number 5. There are photos leaked from the underground dark garage, but no F1 cars to be shown... probably already sold in the late Nineties.

The pics are out so I think we'd better document them and give them some context, so to bring this thread back to life.

That's just my two cents.
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absolutely no going back now, all the pics are all over the internet. it is what it is

would be cool to see the f1 museum too!

SVLT · Nov 26, 2024

marko.urbac said: ↑

These are 2020 leaked pictures and should have never been posted. The ones I posted here are from 2001.
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Correct. I regularly talk to a guy who is childhood friends with the person who manages the collection. They are not happy with those being leaked.

HighOnThunder · Nov 26, 2024

SVLT said: ↑

Correct. I regularly talk to a guy who is childhood friends with the person who manages the collection. They are not happy with those being leaked.
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The Brunei 'royals' are about as immoral as they come so they can cry me a river. Jefri might have taken things to the extreme, but he was obviously scapegoated for the rest of them to save face. If business people involved are worried about their paycheck I understand their concern about leaks, but afaic from a moral perspective the BRF has no interests that deserve protection. Discretion is all too often a prerequisite for excess, misdeeds and unaccountability. Rant over.

SVLT · Nov 26, 2024

HighOnThunder said: ↑

The Brunei 'royals' are about as immoral as they come so they can cry me a river. Jefri might have taken things to the extreme, but he was obviously scapegoated for the rest of them to save face. If business people involved are worried about their paycheck I understand their concern about leaks, but afaic from a moral perspective the BRF has no interests that deserve protection. Discretion is all too often a prerequisite for excess, misdeeds and unaccountability. Rant over.
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And this is exactly why the BRF doesn’t want this stuff leaked. A bunch of nonsense rambling and ranting from people who never stepped foot in Brunei or would even know Brunei existed if it wasn’t for this collection. The people who get all their information about Brunei from the tabloids.

HighOnThunder · Nov 26, 2024

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And this is exactly why the BRF doesn’t want this stuff leaked. A bunch of nonsense rambling and ranting from people who never stepped foot in Brunei or would even know Brunei existed if it wasn’t for this collection. The people who get all their information about Brunei from the tabloids.
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Pardon me, sir, they are all saints who are misunderstood! Only the secret guardians of the collection photos are informed enough to properly assess any matters regarding the BRF. Their task as car historians is of utter importance and therefore has to be hush hush.

SVLT · Nov 26, 2024

HighOnThunder said: ↑

Pardon me, sir, they are all saints who are misunderstood! Only the secret guardians of the collection photos are informed enough to properly assess any matters regarding the BRF. Their task as car historians is of utter importance and therefore has to be hush hush.
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You unironically don’t see that people, such as yourself aren’t even making it just about the cars.

HighOnThunder · Nov 26, 2024

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You unironically don’t see that people, such as yourself aren’t even making it just about the cars.
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I literally just posted why.

HighOnThunder said: ↑

To be honest I find the debauchery more fascinating than the actual cars.
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But just so I understand where you are coming from, why are you so obsessed with the cars?

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I spent 8 hours reading this thread last night. Incredible.
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What exactly did you find so incredible? That a bunch of companies built a bunch of cars? Or that a bunch of people with more money than sense bought and parked them? Or something else entirely?

If it's about the cars for you, why are you concerned about how the BRF feels about these leaks? You are worried you won't get to see them anymore? There aren't enough other cars in the world to obsess over? The cars aren't all that special as plenty of people have remarked.

HighOnThunder · Nov 26, 2024

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No one wants to get publicly involved in what could be a state and government information theft/leak, less if its Royal Family has that power or influence. The emails who had access to the Google Drive were visible, also the one used to upload the photos.

On the other hand and regarding Brunei experts or aficionados: the more info and photos leaked, the higher security the Royals will impose. I remember when the Mclaren F1 GT headed to UK, some photos were taken by bruneian spotters and even airport workers. When the Brunei Royal Family knew this, they
requisitioned all cameras and mobile phones during transport proccess, so it was harder for us to track more recent movements as the Brunei livery's F1 LM or the comeback of the F1 GT now painted in blue. Being careful about what we posted allowed some people to keep the contacts and gaining more information. Now, with this big leak, we can assume the work is mainly done here, and they will reinforce the collection security and confidentiality to its highest form.

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No disrespect but this sounds like Knights Templar cosplay by some adolescent carspotters.

HighOnThunder · Nov 26, 2024

Charlea said: ↑

Can anyone provide clarity as to why the 2001 photos were kept private for so long after they were originally shared? It seems to have stirred some people up that the photos were released, including the Prince of Johor. You would think as one community all devoted to shedding more light into what exists behind closed doors inside the Brunei collection that photos like these would have been incredibly useful to those wanting to get involved with making sense of the entire collection, but instead these photos were hidden away from the public eye by other Brunei investigators for years, allowed only for those who were privileged enough to be able to see. It kind of defeats the purpose as to why everyone works relentlessly to find and share old photos and information relating to the collection you think? Was there some sort of pressure by the auction networks or the royal family itself to not share the photos? Or were people just coveting the photos as to not cause a flood of new info much like what is happening now? Either way, I think that this photo drop is one of the greatest things to happen for everyone involved in the hunt for more relating to the Brunei collection. I’ve seen dozens upon dozens of repeated questions that people frequently ask about the collection that can be finally answered with the photos that are now public. Is it really beneficial towards the community to covet photos such as these ones?
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Completely agree. People seem more concerned with being in the secret club than actually sharing information and photos. Again, I can see why for people who financially depend on the BRF discretion is key, but I doubt they are the ones scolding people for posting photos.

HighOnThunder · Nov 26, 2024

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It gives me a slither of hope that at least some of the really special cars are being taken car of. From what it sounds like, it is returning from the McLaren factory. It sounds like they have a renewed appreciate for what they have.

If you can restore a 250 GTO that was lying in the weeds. I think some of these cars may be able to be saved. It warms my heart.
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You know they are just cars, right? Nobody on Fchat likes seeing a nice car go to waste, but to defend a bunch of dictators just so you can have a peek at their loot is very dubious.

Mirek · Nov 26, 2024

Ferrari 456 with night-vision (?)

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Ferrari 456 with night-vision (?)

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I'm willing to bet Jefri was inspired by The Cannonball Run (1981).

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BruNei_carFRe@K · Nov 26, 2024

It is absolutely unbelievable how accurate the information provided by basman007 was almost 18 years ago.

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Nice little tidbit of info worth repeating

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I owned one of the ex-SultanF40s until a few years ago. They definitely commanded a sizeable premium over the standard cars (about 25pct) even though they were Somewhat compromised - steering not as direct as the standard car due to the fact that they used a 308 rack. Alo the driving position was offset more than the left hookers.
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