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  1. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    The "sir" part you're referring to doesn't exist in Dutch language. Max is an officer, Lewis merely a Sir. You make a big thing about the Sir in just about every post but now because Max outranks Lewis suddenly it's not important, lol.

    You directly refer to Lewis as being more discreet, yet he is the one that was flaunting his money constantly by organising photoshoots by his private jet. ****, he even took this picture to show of his wealth. And you moan about a little logo? Case closed:

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  2. Bas

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    Max has never been apologetic about how he picks and chooses his words. Lewis has. Ergo, I can point out one or the other for being a hypocrite.
     
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    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    You keep bringing up Max's personal jet and "Lewis got rid of his." SO FREAKIN WHAT!!!

    I think ALOT of these F1 drivers, to include multi-WDC title holders, owned personal jets in their point in life to include other personal assets that they bought. Some have sold those assets and some haven't. IF you hire a personal tax attorney, those assets are included in your financial portfolio....to be sold later at your chosing.

    Why are comparing Max to Lewis? Both are obviously different personalities with different tastes whether on track or off track.

    Just because Lewis Hamilton is to your liking more so than Max doesn't make Lewis Hamilton the "ALMIGHTY RIGHTEOUS ONE" to everybody else's eyes.

    Lewis loves attention....Max doesn't. Lewis makes it a point to be relevant. Max doesn't. Max is almost Kimi-esque when it comes to the media....low key...and I personally like that. Max mostly does his talking on the track.
     
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  4. ktu

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    Sorry, I didn't know if you comprehended the question properly.
    If Max put his logo on his jet, would you label this as being discreet?
     
  5. ktu

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    The judge won't care if I'm apologetic about robbing the bank. I would still go to jail. You can't validate Max bro.
     
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  7. Bas

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    What on earth are you on about?

    Did you have the same energy when Lewis called his Mercedes ''the worst car ever'' just a few races ago? You know, the car that was good enough to contend for the win and got front row of the grid...
     
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  8. ktu

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    "the worst car ever"
    Bro that's like the worst. I've never heard Max or any driver say anything this bad. I'm gonna need some time to process this bro.......
     
  9. absostone

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    There is talk Merc are cheating with DAS, Is this true? I believe it either way.
     
  10. JWeiss

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    Not really. That would be an insult to popcorn.

    The only reason I don’t have the guy on “ignore” is that I can easily skip his posts without getting dragged into a pissing match. Don’t know why some others can’t, but if they find it entertaining, so be it.
     
  11. ktu

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    Depends on what flavor of popcorn. I only like certain brands personally.
     
  12. TonyL

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    Bas, the dutch honorary system has no relevance to the British system or vice versa so you cannot compare rankings, both individuals have been recognized by their country for contributions to their sport.

    Neither outrank each other but to say a Knight of the British Empire, one of the highest honours in the British system as merely a Sir is disrepectful however much you hate the guy.

    Its not a willy waggling contest FFS.
     
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  13. SS454

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    Nobody will defend Max getting overly irate on the radio, but it is the radio. Just because we never had the luxury of hearing Senna, Prost, or Schumacher, it doesn't mean they didn't have unpleasant messages to the team as well. We know Lewis is all about self image and being fake to cameras and even he has moments of unpleasant radio messages. Remember Toto having to tell him to shut up and drive? Max on the other hand doesn't care what people think and so are we surprised if he gets angry on the radio?

    Now we go into interviews in front of cameras and microphones where drivers can think a little bit before talking. There is absolutely a big difference between I, We, and They. Max refers to the team as we, it's a result achieved together. For better or worse. I don't recall him saying "I drove an amazing race" in Brazil or anything like that. Lewis however has said "I" to make himself look good or to excuse a poor result, and used "they" or "the team" to single the team's mistakes out from himself. That is a true example of throwing the team under the bus. Remember Lewis publicly saying the team should have listened to him on how to design the freakin car? That's throwing the team under the bus.

    Side note: Nice try making Hungary a recent event. In no way is July 21st a recent example. You couldn't find anything to defend your hateful position on Max and had to resort to the closest thing which was months ago.
     
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    Game, Set and Match
     
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    I'm insulted! I'm not a truck... I'm SS454 the car! :D:D
     
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  16. Bas

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    I don't hate Lewis. I used to, I do think he is a bit of a narcissist still.

    The honorary system isn't the same indeed but if we're purely looking at rankings, the one Max received is indeed higher. I honestly couldn't give a **** but I do find it ****ing hilarious that the person that makes such a big f'in deal about the whole "Sir" business and frequently corrects others about not including the Sir bit, technically Max does now outranks him. Max = an Officer and Lewis is "merely" a Sir, which is one step below an officer.

    Again, I don't give a toss about it, you don't, Max and Lewis don't either (hardly life changing for them), just the one guy with the LH duvet covers does.
     
  17. Bas

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    My bad! I blame it on the flu :p:p:p
     
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  18. SS454

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    This question is probably better in the Mercedes thread, but;

    I analyzed the video, and I do not think they are using a form of DAS. The front tires appearing to twitch is an illusion caused by the front deflectors pitching forward when the driver hits the brakes. It's a massive change in loads that happens in a fraction of a second and thus becomes visual. I compared it to Leclerc onboard pole lap and his front deflectors do the same. The little movement in the wheel is nothing, there is no deliberate pull or push at other points in the lap. As far as I'm concerned, it's debunked.
     
  19. ktu

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    #5019 ktu, Nov 27, 2024
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    The difference between you and me is I don't get into the gymnastics of how, when, where they did it. What month did they do it, did they do it in or out of the car. Did they do it in front of the press or not, did they do it after they ate lunch, or while riding their bicycle. That's all irrelevant. Throwing your team under the bus means just that. No need for you to think this hard and justify Max for doing the same thing. Waste of time. One thing is true that Sir Lewis Hamilton is often heard praising his team more than Max. That is not even debatable.
     
  20. SS454

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    So in your world context doesn't matter? Okay. You're history of posts suggests otherwise, seems like it only matters when it fits your narrative. But you do you.
     
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    I don’t dare bring it to the Merc thread the crazy lewsi pajama wearing people are there.
    Btw 454 ss chevelle?
     
  22. SS454

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    Yeah, 1971 Chevelle SS454
     
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  23. ktu

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    Its impossible compare rankings when using two different systems. That's like saying Colton Herta out ranked Charles Leclerc this year.
     
  24. ktu

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    No. In this case context does not exist.
     
  25. TonyL

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    #5025 TonyL, Nov 27, 2024
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    We can agree on that one Bas, i dont give a rats butt about either but can accept & recognize their contribution /award. Neither has any relevance to each other so unfortunately you are mistaken as there is no direct comparison, so neither outrank each other.

    As far as i know MV was awarded the Order of Orange - Nassau as a Officer ranked 4th on the scale, the knight (5th) version has no bearing of a knight (KBE) under the GB system, a KBE is one of the highest honours bestowed on a civilian.

    It should be left as that.

    Tony
    PS - there are only 2 drivers i ever followed with some passion - Lauda & Scheckter
     
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