296 VS

For the VS, has to be a 296 ordered by you, in your garage.

Ferrari allocations basically come down to 2 categories. Dealer controlled or Factory Controlled. If it’s dealer controlled, there may be a barrier to entry like, you have to sign a ROFR and trade your car back to them when your VS comes in but Ferrari themselves doesn’t care who the dealer picks as long as they meet their base criteria.

If it’s Ferrari selected, good luck.

 

The GTS is all you need to qualify, but I’m sure the more business you do with your dealer the better so it will only help. I’d focus on that relationship and not getting on Ferraris radar. There are some big fish out there.

 

You need to have a GTB or GTS in your garage AND keep it until delivery of the VS was told to me this weekend again by my source.
However no need for both.
No VS model ever needed you to have both.
Having an extensive collection surely does help.
In fact, for being put on the F80 list Ferrari did actually physically visited many collectors in person to see their collection in real life!

Oh expect that link to the racing stable of ferrari to bery VERY alive with the VS model. Hence why they are releasing yet again a Piloti version.
Quick "Pro" tip on how to climp Ferari's ladder very quickly is to purchase a 296 Challenge or GT3 car.....

 

I know at least 4 people at my dealer who have ordered both GTB and GTS and they will all order the VS. Throw in VIPs and Tops and your chances of getting an allocation are pretty slim if you have just one 296 car next to your name. Unless Ferrari turns it into KVS (Kinda Versione Speciale) and makes enough of them to go around.

 

This is roughly what happened with Pista, no? I heard stories about customers without 488s or even no history being able to get them late in the production run as long as they also picked up Lusso/Portofino. Maybe those were just rumors or hearsay, but I think concerns around Pista overproduction are still going to be there for 296 VS.

 

I think you misunderstood my post.
Being a first time buyer and having just a 296 as your only purchase of an Ferrari car will leave you with slim chances.
You should probably have some kind of history with Ferrari to be able to get this car.
HOWEVER that was also the story with the Pista and we all saw what happend there.... produced en mass!
We'll have to see in 7 months time.

 

History with Ferrari but most important relationship for this car is relationship with your dealer. They’re separate. Ferrari isn’t going to select customers for this car. Your dealer is going to field applications and submit them to Ferrari.

 

They're going to sell as many as possible, that's obvious, until the arrival of phase 2 ! There are still naïve people here ?

 

correct, I know of two Pista buyers that took Lusso/CaliT's in order to get a the VS. Wasn't the Port at that time or perhaps that was right at the transition.

 

I had to buy a Portofino, as I had only had a used 458 and 812 SF on order. It was fine, and I enjoyed the car with the kid. I never considered a spider as something I'd want until the Porto.

 

No idea what phase 2 means but yes they’ll sell it like Pistas. Even the limited cars aren’t that “limited”.

 

296 Modificata ,what the 488 is to the 458 for example...

 

Ya but that’s just SOP for any of these manufacturers. Why wouldn’t that be an expectation?

 

Because one model chases the other, and hybrids have no future in collection, they are just consumables that have no argument except the hp, widely democratized nowadays and in too many for the road. Don't confuse an efficient car with an emotional car. If you look at history, it's the ones that give emotions that stay in the story...

 

That sounds good and all but I don’t find those words match the driving experience of the 296 at all. It’s far better, or more emotional to borrow your parlance, than the 488 or F8.

 

Actually there were a number of Pistas available due to a downturn in the market at the time - much of that availability came from 488 owners who were given allocation but weren’t prepared to fund the significant difference due to 488 values taking such a dip. This could also repeat itself with the 296 given the current market which doesn’t appear to be improving, getting worse as numbers for sale increase.
Maybe some 296 owners will be denied VS allocation initially but i very much doubt anyone with the preparedness to foot the difference for a VS will miss out.
And as day55 suggests they will build as many as they can find buyers for is probably an accurate statement.

 

Certainly, 488 and F8 have no future either... difficult to get out of the NA actually... To stay in the theme of the thread, a CS, Scuderia, Speciale are more emotional than a Pista or a 296 VS ...

 

I drove one of the first 296s...it's very effective, but too artificial for me. The same thing happened when I rode on Mugello with a 720 S , 30 mm later, I couldn't remember the sensations except for the speed up and the lightness... While years later, I remember perfectly the sensations of the CS...

 

You are dead on exactly with the 720S and the 296. Forgettable.

 

Not true. They will select.
A dealer relationship only holds value where the buyer is able to pay for the car when it arrives at the dealership.
With VS i got the distinct impression there will be plenty to go around, which may have been their way of saying they know their allocation will be going to buyers they know who can actually pay for the car when the order is submitted and, when the car arrives. Im pretty sure they learned a few lessons from the Pista days - lessons they don’t want repeated. 296VS wont be cheap and there will be a significant difference to be paid if a 296 is to be traded (given the significant increase in depreciation levels now being seen).

 

I've mentioned this before, but when I drove the 296, it reminded me of the speciale. Not sure why, but the sounds was better than the TTV8s and the to me it had the emotion I get from a 458. Granted, it was a limited drive, but that was my initial reaction. I have no doubt the VS will be a suitable next step.

 

No. Ferrari selects for ICONA, XX, Competizione, and Hyper cars. But for VS, like this Pista, your dealer will submit to Ferrari who they choose and have a history with and Ferrari will approve. It’s the other way around. This is directly from my dealer unless they’re quite mis-informed.

 

Limited numbered cars are a whole different ball game. A 296VS will be only limited to a production run where they will seek to build as many as they can find buyers for who can actually pay for the car. The higher price of the car may limit the volume of buyers though.
Your dealer may well be just readying you for disappointment with the knowledge they may already have their allocation sorted to previous buyers who have a history of being able to pay on time without going through any argy bargy when they tell them the difference in price between what will likely be offered for their gtb trade.
Im not saying your customer profile with Ferrari is meaningless but it becomes a secondary issue where the payment aspect is concerned, particularly at dealer end. You may still have a place on the tail end of their list, along with many other hopefuls, as their fallback positions if anything goes wrong along the way with their other (preferred) GTB customers who have an established track record of Ferrari purchases, who fail to come up with the funds when called. This can happen. When I reflect back on my Pista purchase I was on the tail end of their list but wound up being in the first batch of deliveries lol. That tells you something. The dealer always keeps their options open. The story about Ferrari vetting allocations was the same song being sung back then too. Actually, fwiw, the same thing happened with the 765LT lol and id never bought any Mac prior too.

 

Jo Sta7 - And furthermore, the greater majority of guys who got the 765"s had never bought a Mac before in their entire lives. The list as originally explained was full to the brim of Mac owners, many who had bought multiple Macs previously. It was a long list. But again, what happened was most of of them couldn't stomach what they were being offered for their 720s's and the like's, not prepared to foot the changeover. So first time buyers wound up with these so called special version cars simply because they had the money to pay for them. Granted a Mac doesn't hold the same desirability as a Ferrari in the prestige world, but with these VS's Im anticipating a repeat of what happened with the 488gtb except at a much higher level, so I wouldn't fret about not being able to get a VS at this stage in the game regardless of only having the one Ferrari purchase history. The main thing is its a 296, which in most ways qualifies you, and you are able to foot the difference when the time comes.

 

Have you driven a 296 ?