I think we are too old to really understand the aesthetics of todays youth. All the young people i know LOVE the Cybertruck.
Not many "youth" can afford a limited production EV, and the other people they seem to be targeting don't care about automobiles. Maybe social media stars and some woke stars will buy these, but as jaguar will find out, they are in relatively small numbers.
Maybe, maybe not. What if Jag does a high end Halo in limited numbers for the small group of well heeled youth, and then a $60k car to appeal to the rest of the demo? I think the LGBTQ marketing thing was dumb and odd (no politics just business perspective) as thats an incredibly small group. But the car itself, could have a much wider appeal. Cant say much more until I see it.
I'm not in love with Cybertruck but I understand it. Elon didn't want to compete against the F150. And if you look at Rivian, he has a point. So he went over the youth market who would never be seen dead in an F150 but still want a truck. And its based on Space X's special stainless steel, which restricts the look. This is a car is made of ordinary metals. They intentionally designed it this way. IMO, in a poor way. The idea or basic concept of the overall shape isn't bad. The execution is. And I have to ask, how many under 30 year olds have the money to spend $150K on a sedan? Who is the market because most likely they'll buy a Range Rover for that money.
$150k+ Halo car to build prestige, then a $60k car with similar styling for the masses. no one cares about materials/limitations. Almost every cybertruck i see is wrapped.
That quote sounds rather William Leroy Mitchell-ish... Does anybody remember a company that has pulled something this drastic off? You mention Cadillac; but that is only a sub-brand of GM, and even then they went up market with a couple of models notably the Celestiq. M-B tried a limited version with the Maybach and even that was a bit of a yawn. I would have thought they might start with an update of the current line-up and maybe move up market with their Daimler name, although the confusion with M-B would certainly be an issue. Even though I suggested it in my previous post, closing at least 5 plants isn't going to be cheap or well recived, especially in Britain. I find it very hard to imagine how this will suceed even with Tata's deepish pockets. Maybe if they can get to those three models claimed early it's possible, but I think this is the longest of long shots, and I think in 10 years we'll be looking at Jag as the 2030's version of Bristol, if the name survives at all.
Im all for air conditioner vents and flat slabs... if the dimensions are right. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Sweet. + with a V-12. Hand built. How Dave Kindig’s 1953 Corvette ‘TwelveAir’ Sets a New Standard for Custom Car Design Dave Kindig and his team at Kindig-It Design have once again redefined custom car building with their latest creation, the 1953 Corvette “TwelveAir.” Recently crowned the Ridler Award winner at the 2024 Detroit Autorama, this Corvette is more than a reimagination—it’s a ground-up custom build that transforms a classic icon using modern design and cutting-edge technology. Every detail, from the engine bay to the leather-wrapped interior, reflects a perfect balance of craftsmanship and innovation Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login More: https://www.yankodesign.com/2024/09/30/how-dave-kindigs-1953-corvette-twelveair-sets-a-new-standard-for-custom-car-design/amp/ Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
One thing w/the Cybertruck is that it drives like a Tesla, so people who like that know what they're getting. Also, on the higher end, the Spectre really delivers a Rolls experience at the helm (is the electric clock still the loudest noise at 6o?). If the new Jag drives uniquely like a new Jag, and presuming that's a thing liked by enough folks to keep the fridge full, it will have been worth hanging onto the name with "new" attached? wrapped & unwrapped ... Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
It would appear that Tesla has run into some 'issues' with the Cybertruck. Who knew? Tesla suspends Cybertruck production. Who could have predicted this? Mashable Tue, December 3, 2024 at 7:05 PM EST 4 min read Image Unavailable, Please Login Going nowhere? Cybertrucks in transit, Austin, November 2024. Generate Key Takeaways Elon Musk is having a terrible, no good, very bad week. First a judge struck down a stock grant that Musk persuaded Tesla shareholdersto give him, in part by threatening to leave the company. That grant, originally worth around $50 billion, would now be $100 billion, thanks to a post-election rally for the company whose owner went all-in for the next president. $100 billion: even for the world's richest man, currently worth $333 billion, that's real money. The grant would have doubled Musk's lead over the world's second-richest man, Jeff Bezos, in the all-important billionaires list. But news that is subtly worse for Musk's long-term prospects just leaked out of Tesla's Austin factory: Cybertruck production appears to be ramping down. Workers on the vehicle's assembly line have been told that there's no need to report to work for 3 days. According to Business Insider, which has four sources on the factory floor, this comes on the heels of several similar slowdowns in October. Not to mention an increase in cleaning and training duties to fill their hours, and a sharp decrease in overtime offers. Tesla hasn't yet commented on the reason for the slowdown, but this is not what you would expect to see from a carmaker with a hit on its hands. Automotive companies usually see most of their sales in the spring, when potential customers get tax refunds and driving conditions improve. So if Tesla execs were anticipating banner sales in a few months, the Cybertruck factory should be cranking right this minute. You wanna buy a Cybertruck? Instead, Cybertruck inventory seems to be backed up — never a good sign when your job as a business is to shift it. Especially not good if you had two million pre-orders, because it suggests nearly all of those pre-orders, bar 50,000 or so, weren't serious. (Which, given that potential customers only had to put down a $100 deposit, seems a likely outcome.) Normally, you shift inventory by lowering price. Tesla has instead raised the average price of the Cybertruck (the cheapest trim vanished from its website in August), even as its 350-mile range turns out to be lower than Musk promised. This isn't just a detail for car nerds to care about. Because if there's any non-Trump-related fundamental driving Tesla stock growth at the moment, it's the uptick in Cybertruck sales (while other Tesla models have seen flat or diminishing market share). Some 28,000 of the oddly angular vehicles were sold in the first 3 quarters of 2024, according to estimates by Cox Automotive (Tesla doesn't break out its sales figures). Analysts, in the aggregate, expected 48,500 Cybertrucks sold this year, so that's not a bad showing — certainly better than rival electric trucks from Rivian and Ford. But here's the $100 billion question: Will Tesla get anywhere close to selling 250,000 Cybertrucks a year? That's the production capacity Musk has insisted on, and effectively bet the future of Tesla on. Given that the Cybertruck isn't for sale outside North America — and given its trouble with regulators in Europe and China, it isn't likely to happen any time soon — Musk's bet is almost entirely focused on the U.S. truck market. More in Business Image Unavailable, Please Login Tesla tells workers on Cybertruck line no 'need to report to work' for the next 3 days Business Insider Two million pickups are sold every year, so it seems reasonable to assume Tesla can grab an eighth of that total. But can it? Or is reality about to overwhelm Musk's "if you build it they will come" approach? The Cybertruck has seen six recalls in 2024, a massive number in the car business. The most recent was just this month — thanks to a faulty part that may cause, wait for it, a loss of power to the wheels. SEE ALSO: The Cybertruck's failure is now complete You have to squint really hard to see the Cybertruck as anything other than the butt of recall-related jokes. Every week seems to bring with it a new report of Cybertruck owner woes on social media, from an expensive case of leaking oil to a massive systems failure during an outing for a protein shake. This winter may bring worse news for Musk, judging by the Canadian Cybertruck owner whose vehicle died after two hours of use, while he was trying to defrost it. At least there is one silver lining for Musk. If Cybertruck sales are falling off a cliff, and if they start to take Tesla shares down with them, at least the stock grant Musk missed out on will be worth less than $100 billion. The question is, will he?
Looked at this on behalf of a bank yesterday. Not GM but... 61 300G w a 418. Schweet!! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I believe The Sketch Monkey was last to comment since he was at a loss for words. Sounded like this was his first time creating a word salad. One area I find awkward is the greenhouse. However, the video showed for a micro-second that there is actually a "B" Pillar present. And, IMHO, it doesn't look bad even though it is merely a modified "square." Image Unavailable, Please Login
From a Hagerty interview with Bob Lutz about the new Jaguar: On Jaguar, which is in the middle of relaunching and showed a new concept car this week: “The idea was good, to break out of the run-of-the-mill, dog-eat-dog, Mercedes-BMW-Audi-Cadillac-Infiniti-Lexus [segment]. Breaking out of that and going up into the stratosphere like Cadillac is doing with the Celestiq. But the Jag [Type 00] concept has nothing. It’s just boring. It could have been done in five minutes by any gifted 16-year-old who knows how to sketch cars. The ad campaign did them no favors, either.”
Maybe the Type [00] design was actually conceived by Sir William Lyons when he was a British Boy Scout? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Owner told me he spent $4K alone getting the plexiglass? Lucite?on the steering wheel replaced. It had yellowed...
