Scuderia Ferrari 2025

This year is our year !!

 

I read an article that the 2025 F1 Ferrari car is 99% different from the SF24 car. I find that hard to believe. Journalists.....what do they know.

 

Makes no sense, last year of regs, car was seriously quick end of the season...

Unfortunately F1 journalism has degraded so hard so fast, it's all just cheap headlines now.

 

Is that like the Porsche 911 yearly updates?

 

Vasseur own words ..(French television).
A brand new car with a new tub.

 

One thing is for certain, this is make or break time for Charles. I’m afraid if he doesn’t assert dominance this year he’ll be destined to fade away as a “could have been”.

Hopefully he has learned to be more cut throat on the track so he can immediately put Lewis in his place instead of becoming number two.

It will be interesting to see who’s driving style the new car favors.

 

If Leclerc can't outperform Hamilton like Russell did, it's Lecurtains.

 

I couldn’t agree more. It is time Charles finds a fighting spirit that IMHO he currently lacks.

At first I was impressed by his ability to acknowledge his mistakes. Now I’m afraid it may be a sign of a certain weakness.

I haven’t seen much improvement since Vasseur arrived. I wish Charles will receive some kind of coaching - as I believe Rosberg did in his time - from Fred, Lewis (?) or outside !

 

Wrong thread for that...

 

Well we have to wait a real championship contender car to really make this kind of judgment about him.
Really hope 2025 will be the year for this car.

 

Unfortunately the problem IMO is that you either have that competitive fire or you don’t. It’s not something that can be coached or learned.

I love Charles, he is an incredible driver and he is a great guy but he’s soft. You can see it in his eyes and the way he reacts under pressure. Most of the younger, newer generation is this way. It’s not their fault but society has raised/taught them to be more passive than aggressive.

Senna would eat them all for lunch.

 

I don't think you make it this far and achieve what he has achieved without being competitive.

 

He’s competitive but he lacks that cut throat fire in his gut that makes drivers put their elbows out and take no prisoners.

Under pressure he cracks and gets a defeatist attitude IMO. I think it’s because he is too nice a guy. He better learn fast though or Lewis will weasel him out in a blink and he’ll be relegated to playing a lap dog like Bottas.

There is nothing I’d love to see more than Charles dominate 2025 with Lewis playing a distant number two.

 

Aside from the cars themselves, the big question is if Hamilton is a partner or a disrupter.

I can see advantages or disadvantages both ways. Certainly this is Hamilton's swan song. The question is how does he want to go out because he certainly has nothing to prove anymore.

Personally, I can see him wanting to get a World Championship back to the team. But on the other hand, maybe his motivation is trying to prove he's still got it and go out on top. But if Charles is constantly out performing him, I see trouble.

And if he's constantly out performing Charles, I see bigger trouble.

 

I don’t like Lewis but I’d lose all respect for him if he didn’t want to go out on top. I don’t think there is a chance in hell he wants anything other than to win a final WDC and retire with Ferrari cementing his place in history.

He might be a tool IMO but he is indeed a Champion and they are never satisfied with anything other than winning.

 

Yep.

The people that say Jos was too tough a father for Max don't realize that everything he did was a lesson to Max on what life is like (on track or real life).There are no participation prizes, not everyone can be a winner. It's a dog eat dog world out there and the biggest winners are the meanest, toughest of them all.

 

It is an easy bet that Ferrari are going to prioritize Hamilton over Leclerc. This will be a source of tension and Leclerc will bail. The only way this won't happen is if Hamilton is so far out in the weeds they will have no choice but to support Leclerc.

 

If Hamilton is clearly performing above Charles and Ferrari prioritizes him I’ll grudgingly accept it but if it’s close and or Charles is better and they still prioritize Lewis I’ll be done with the Scuderia for good.

It will be interesting to see if it’s a fair fight. I hope they settle it on the track and not in some marketing meeting.

 

Bas i both agree and disagree with your statement.
Indeed this a tough sport for big boys with no second prize but not everything is allowed to win at all costs..
Senna, Michael Schumacher and Max are on the same category I guess when we are talking about ethics..
On the other side we have drivers like Stewart,Lauda, Prost and Hakkinen..
They demonstrated numerous times that winning a championship is not only about being ruthless..

 

The issue is what version of Hamilton is Ferrari getting. If it´s the 2024 version (or 2011 or any of those years he´s been off), he won´t cause any kind of tension, as he´ll be too far from Leclerc and will be just moaning about everything on the radio. This could easily happen if the car is just good but not the best, Hamilton gets easily distracted when he´s not fighting for wins.

Personally I´d prefer a Hamilton causing "some tension" than the erratic one we saw this year.

 

Max Verstappen got at the top despite the bad education he got from his father not because of it. Many top drivers had a good relationship with their parents and consider them role models, you don´t need to be a bully like Jos to rise a professional driver. But it´s not a surprise that a guy who beats his wife and girlfriend was a SOB with his son too.

 

Or, like someone said once: "It's not what you win that matters, but how you win it".

 

Well, we have 3 dichotomous father figures whose sons are in F1. One happens to be a multi-Billionare who has fed his son on a silver spoon. The other father, as you said, has a not-so-great history BUT had given his son hard values of life. Then there's the father who worked multiple jobs to get his biracial son into F1.

Chose your poison.