Ferrari F80

In a car like F80, with so much race-derived tech, lap time has to be important. Sure, it’s no race car, but that’s not the point. The tech is not valuable or significant if it doesn’t allow the F80 to do something the other road cars (LaFerrari, Enzo etc.) can’t do. Why is it interesting without the extreme tech? And why is the extreme tech extreme if it doesn’t allow you to go faster? Aero is a great example. A 992 GT3 RS needs to be faster around the track than the 991.2 version (it is). The massive extra aero is a driving experience to really get your head around and so is a new experience for many. You can really feel it - even on the road.

 

agreed, they are the only thing left really as EV's dominate straight line acceleration, the chiron ss has a top speed record that is not going to be broken for a long time and 'emotional' raw cars have been left largely to smaller manufacturers

 

This one makes the F50 look beautiful. Yuck. Too much bolted on like a Toyota MR2.

 

The F50 is beautiful.

But then, so is the F80 to my eyes. More like an Enzo than a LaFerrari. Feels like a car that could have a big personality. Horses for courses though. Better that it is not universally appreciated at birth. Things become even more iconic when their brilliance is understood over time. Like being disappointed when first listening to an album that ends up being an all-time classic. The ones that are immediately accessible often come and go without enduring.

 

Last sentence is absolutely spot on !
Like junk food.

 

If I may say so, friendly, you are making a huge mistake on all fronts to sell your LAF for an F 80 !!

 

Could be, at least from a financial viewpoint. I’ve driven the LaF 50 miles in two years. Since I didn’t spec it and bought it at ‘investment’ price, I don’t feel like driving it too often. Whereas a car we spec and then own may get more use. I always end up feeling more connected to cars we’ve owned from new and spec’d the way we want it. If they appreciate then the mileage comes ‘free’, if they depreciate then adding mileage falls into the ‘may as well’ category. Either way, more use is likely. A bit more anyway!

We were also at the Le Mans wins and I see value in the car. We have plenty of V12s, the F80 looks fantastic in the flesh and actually makes the LaF seem quite feline. The F80 reminds me of Le Mans racers of old. A properly serious car. We each have our own reasons to buy or leave

 

By the way, Merry Christmas to all! Hope you have a nice one

 

Just to add to that, I do think the car is all-the-money. They have been very aggressive with the price and I would feel much more comfortable at £500k less. Some have said they feel it’s good value but I feel there is very little financially for the customer in this one. But we’ll see.

 

F80 currently in NY.
Merry Christmas!

 

The F50 was beatiful, what are you talking about ?!?
The Enzo is the best looking car ever made, and the F50 is a close second.

 

The LaFerrari is a million times more beautiful than the F80, they aren't even in the same stratosphere.
And why on Earth did you buy the LaFerrari if you're not driving it ?!??

 

No hypercar is beautiful. It’s all about technology and an impressive aspect. A LaFerrari is not beautiful but impressive, and the F80 is not beautiful but impressive. The F80 features highly advanced technology, including aerodynamics, suspension, and the engine.

 

best Ferrari era

 

You just entirely contradicted yourself.

So, you're willing to take large financial loss to own an F80.

But, you're unwilling to drive "your" LaF out of concern of taking financial loss from putting miles on it.

More and more, I'm convinced "you" are actually a Chat GPT bot powered by Maranello electricity, programmed by a marketing dept.

 

The LaFerrari is more classically beautiful no doubt. But there was just something about the F80 that was more race-like and we both really liked it. It really does remind me of old Le Mans cars from a certain era (ironically an era that Ferrari weren’t competing in but I can forgive that!)

We bought the LaFerrari because I thought its value would do well when the replacement was confirmed as a V6, and if I didn’t like the F80 and wanted to keep owning a so-called hypercar, that was my favourite to date so just hang on to it. In some ways, it may still be my favourite - the engine is imperious, like all Ferrari V12s. The experience of being offered an allocation that we can spec ourselves, plus what has happened with Le Mans, makes me feel good about the F80 and swapping one for the other. I find the F80 to be really impressive. There is something about sitting inside it that feels serious and purposeful, maybe even more so than the LaFerrari. It feels exciting to take a Ferrari hyper car on the ‘whole journey’ - right from inception, maybe even to the day I can no longer drive it. Our Speciale is very hard to sell because its story (we spec’d it at the atelier in Maranello) has become part of our family memories. I had no idea when we bought it that it would appreciate after 10 years and 15,000 amazing miles - that wasn’t even a consideration. It didn’t matter that it wasn’t a TDF (we had no chance of an allocation for that), it was a great car, but more importantly, it was our great car. Hopefully it will be the same with the F80.

We bought an ultra low mileage LaF, which was not the intention and we’re the third owner. Things just lined up right on our car and we went for it - it’s a beautiful example. The opportunities to drive a LaFerrari and be able to justify it are quite few and the car also spent a few months waiting for the usual replacement battery after about 8 years of life, done under warranty. The appreciation we’ve had on the LaF probably puts the F80 effectively into the price band I think is more appropriate - not exactly the right way to look at it but it feels a bit easier. So the mileage remains minimal but I have driven it each year for local mileage and enough to feel and enjoy the way the car moves, though it is not close to being run in. I think I’ll feel different about ‘our own’ F80 but these are cars you need special occasions to really drive; Mille Miglia, Cavalcade, Targa Florio etc. and I haven’t been able to do any of that in the last couple of years due to time pressure.

So our reasons to own an F80 are perhaps different from the norm. Which makes my viewpoint also a little different possibly.

 

Not really. I explained my logic above. Since we committed to F80 I decided I would probably fund it with the LaF and have also been too busy to commit to doing something worthy of using a LaFerrari.

Yes, I’m clearly an AI bot. Even more amusing that that got a like!

 

Exactly the response I'd expect, as unlike humans, Chatbots lack self-awareness.

 

Not sure what is so difficult for you. I explained my logic in 1291. I agreed to an F80 allocation, at a higher price than I would like, and it will be funded by the LaFerrari probably. So no more mileage. I’d like to own a Ferrari hyper car from new and I now have a commitment to it that I need to fulfil. I’m aware that the F80 might lose value but I want to use it so I have to proceed with my eyes open and we’ll see how it goes - maybe it goes up, maybe it goes down. No contradiction.

 

Simply can't imagine anyone truly capable of buying $3.5M car who'd ever feel it necessary to justify/defend such on an internet forum.

 

Good point. No justification needed.

 

there’s a big difference between justifying and explaining one’s thought process and reasoning. As someone who will never be in Lukeylikeys position, I hope you will document fully what will surely be an amazing journey. I remember a while back someone (Traveller I believe) documented in great detail his build process and acquisition of a TDF … would be fantastic if you would do something similar!

 

And he was hounded/trolled relentlessly in a separate thread, thus never posts anymore.

Because of degradation of online respect, many are now guarded, or completely gone, from this forum.

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DEB7i2TO_5m/?igsh=amhudWlpdmdrMTU2

 

Totally agree, all day long. I've not seen the F80 in the carbon yet, but pics and videos are quite surprising, in a bad way.