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  1. lauris

    lauris Formula Junior

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    hi all,

    having a problem with the passenger door window,

    when you pull the handle (either inside or out) the window is supposed to drop to open , ok, will it does, but only two or three times and then it stops working.

    to get it working again, I put the window right down and back up again, then it seems to have re-set itself and works for a few more times.

    I have tried switching the power off and leaving the car to re-set itself, I have tried holding the window switch in the fully down and fully up position for 10 seconds (which is supposed to re-set the thing) but either makes it work properly for only a few times and then its back to not working.

    any ideas ?

    thanks
    Scott.

    2000 model 360
     
  2. FerrariEngineer

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    Hi


    This system is controlled bay sum microswitches en a window Node powered 12V whit sum Fuse you need to start from the beginning ;
    1. check all your fuse for the window system and not only the power voltage and the current after your fuse !!!
    2. check the connection in end out from the Window node if you do not have a Manuel for it you can do 2 things A: ______ B: go on Ebay and bay the Manuel and a power probe
    3. Need to control the Window Microswitches
    4. Please inform is it R or L sade ?

    Please inform
     
  3. lauris

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    its the left hand window in a uk car, so passenger side, - perhaps a stupid question but where are the fuses, (I do have the wiring diagram and I'm ok with with multimeter etc for testing)


    thanks
    scott.
     
  4. GCalo

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    Some fuses are in the front bonnet on the right as you look in behind a small fabric-covered panel.
     
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    i had the exact problem on my 360, the micro switch inside (under the door panel) is just out of adjustment by a hair.the door panel removal takes about 45mins.the switch is located inside on the regulator (gear looking device)start to finish with a nice cleaning of the leather should take around 2-2 1/2 hrs. just remember to put down a blanket on the floor so you don't scratch any door panel parts
     
  6. lauris

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    thanks, I am going to strip it this weekend and have a look,

    cheers
    scott.
     
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    one more thing i forgot to inform you...the inside door protection "skin" is a pain in the nuts to remove. it feels like thin foam membrane and it is glued all around the edges.carefully cut it away from the glue with a razor. when done i'm sure it will stick back on.this barrier is important because it protects the inside of the door panel from the elements.good luck
     
  8. FerrariDenmark

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    Pretty sure this micro switch is a:

    BURGESS MICROSWITCH, V3SYR UL, ROLLER LEVER
     
  9. mmerci2858@yahoo.com

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    I have a 04 Ferrari 360 Spider with door lock issues. My problem started when i could no longer lock the doors either with the key or fob. I figured it was the common door lock issue, so I installed 2 new locks ( as I did both due to age of components and probability of failure). I installed the new locks and checked all functions manually with key and battery disconnected and everything is working properly. So I turn the battery back on and i cant lock either side with key or fob. It does the exact same thing as before the new lock installation, in that it locks for about 1 second, then it unlocks. I have double checked all cable adjustments and they are in order. Does anyone have any thoughts, ideas, or potential solutions? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  10. Qavion

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    When you say you changed the locks, what part did you change? Just the key barrel (with the 3 microswitch attachment) or the big latch/lock assembly?
     
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    I have a handful of micro door switches here if anyone needs one
     
  12. kaj750

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    Bumping so you guys don't have to read, yet, another thread on this.
    Window intermittently decides to not drop when opening door with exterior lever. When lifting exterior handle, I can hear the micro switch clicking.
    I keep reading that I should try to adjust the micro switch for the exterior handle. My question is, where is it and, more importantly, how do we adjust it?
    While I had the door apart, it looks like the micro switch is actually attached to the exterior lever. Is this correct? If so, I see no way to get to it.
    I unbolted the lever using the two exterior bolts. I then reached up and unbolted the bracket for the harness and disconnected the cable. I could get the door handle to move but I could not lift it out of the door. It would seem what looks like the micro switch, is keeping it from fitting through the hole in the door, to lift it out.

    Does anyone have pictures or video of how to actually adjust the micro switch?

    Thanks, in advance.
     
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    Looking at photos of the switch and handle, I'm not even sure it's adjustable, at least not at the switch mounting point.

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    The holes in the switch body for the mounting screws don't look too big, so there doesn't seem to be any adjustment there.

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    The switch may simply be intermittent or worn, or the switch lever arm bent/broken (if there is one).

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    I stand to be corrected. Over to the experts....
     
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    I think you are right on all accounts. I had something new today. The window did not drop from the INSIDE this time. Leading me to believe my fix will be the absolute most expensive option LOL
     
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    Did you touch the Window ECU at all? Or pulled a plug and forgot to put it back in? The smaller plug on the bottom of the ECU has inputs from the inner and outer door handle (different wires tho).

    You could make sure that these wires are getting grounds when you operate the handles... I mean at the ECU plug.
     
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    I'll be doing that before ordering another ECU. I'm HOPING to find a loose connection, etc. Those ECUs are $$$$
     
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    Any update to this? Having very similar issues. Have not begun to diagnose/troubleshoot yet. Window does not droop with exterior handle. If dropping slightly with window switch, then it seems to reset and works 1-3 times before acting up again.
     
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    So it works with the interior handle every time?
     
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    No, I guess both interior and exterior have issues sometimes. This is a new problem.
     
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    Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying. You guess they have issues sometimes? And this is a new issue? New issue compared to what?

    Knowing these things in detail could lead to a completely different diagnosis.

    If it fails again from the exterior handle, check the interior handle.
     
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    Last time I drove it, on Saturday, the window was not dropping from the exterior or interior handles. By dropping it slightly with the window switch, it started to work with both handles again. I checked last night, it was working fine still (both handles). I'll monitor it and see if it was a one off thing.
     
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    Not sure what the issue is here. Because both inner and outer handles are not working intermittently, it initially sounds like the microswitch on the window sliders is out of adjustment. i.e. the system thinks the window is already down. However, lowering the window manually a little would make the system think that the windows were even further down, also not trigger the window lowering system.

    Maybe the microswitch is loose and dropping the window a little shakes the microswitch, making it work. Maybe next time, try moving the window up to see if that also helps?

    I’ll try and find some other threads on this issue. Resistance checks of the switch might tell us if the switch is properly calibrated.
     
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    I haven't been able to find a solution. I've been focused on my exhaust manifolds and engine/trans mounts. The window issue will be soon.
    Like yours, my issue is intermittent and if I use the window switches, the door handles will work for a while. Weird.
     
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    Any updates? I have no way to check electrical activity of my switches and wiring, so am about to buy another ECU just to see what happens.
    I definitely hear the exterior switch. Interior lever is kinda noisy, so hard to hear.
     
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    No way? I think in the long term, if you buy a multimeter (volts, ohms), it will save you thousands of dollars in the future. Or is there a space limitation? e.g. can't open the door wide enough to take off the door connector?
     

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