296 VS

Will there be a special feature for 296vs like in with other VS models such as the Competizione the exhaust pipe and the gearbox or like the SF90XX the exhaust bang when shifting or the boost logic from Formula 1 with which the car has 1042 hp at the corner exit?

 

Don't forget the dealers 8% commission.

 

I'd say count on the gear shifts like the XX. That was one surprising thing to me in the SF90 vs a Pista; the shifts in the Pista were much, much more exciting. The new 12 Cilindri has a similar shift sound from what I can tell.

 

Yes, that's right, 12 cilindri has an exciting sound when shifting. With the Pista, you could only hear it in the interior but not at the exhaust.

 

Here dealer is mum on details and tries to reassure me no one knows yet. "But will I qualify here, compared to other customers?" VS Spider was my explicit goal in buying both versions and if they last minute headfake me for being a car short by having 3 instead of 4... I'll lose it.

Especially since I asked at least 10 times in writing, in person or on the phone with FNA for them to make a deal to keep my GTB with a contract that my dealer would commit me an allocation and they outright refused. FNA said it was dealer's decision. Dealer said they couldn't, because FNA has control over it.

I guess we will see soon enough.

 

Wow - the games - too old for this sh$t...

 

Anyone who has to have a 296 GTB and GTS to get a VS will lose between 300-400K. Then you'll have to wait 2-3 years to get your VS. In the meantime both 296s will be aging, warranty close to expiring, costly insurance and other holding costs. Once the VS becomes available there will most likely be a 150-200K markup from a dealer/flipper. Wait another six months after that and it will drop to 100K, then find a car and buy it. You'll still have it probably sooner then if you'd ordered one. You'll save at least 300K and not have to deal with keeping two 296s for years. Too much brain damage and games. Ferrari likes it that way and I think does it on purpose.

 

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I have a suspicion the VS front end and side skirts will take heavily from the 296 Challenge. what do you all think?

 

GTB - GTS - no one who knows and I 100% disagree.
VS 2-3 years- no more like 12 - 24 months after debut some sooner.

Simple fix - drive your F cars, every car depreciates but it doesn't suck to daily a Ferrari.

Four years of daily driving Ferrari's add VS XX - it's a game.
4 in garage 2 on order add some vintage - league minimum to get limited editions.

Some posters - everyone will get one now it's everyone will lose money ... can we at least wait til it's announced.

 

I'm pretty sure you don't need 3 Ferraris in the garage to get a VS Spider. Furthermore, it would be much more appropriate if Ferrari dropped the hybrid approach on the VS.

 

You know this how -
Why drop hybrid approach - there is a hybrid club / 499P 1st place. Special events etc.
VS is a reward - those who bought into hybrid.
Each division of Ferrari has a category - V12 V8 V6 Hybrid you need a history.

 

There's also a higher rung up the ladder from VIP clients. Examples: Dealer Principal and/or GM's friends (bestie), family (brother in law), their Doctor (surgeon, dentist), Attorney, celebrities and others they may want to get a car for or owe a favor to. They pass/assign the sale on to a salesman so they get paid and handle the legwork. You'd be surprised how much of that goes on. Lots of pulling strings and manipulation behind the scenes. So it's not cut and dry.

 

and truthfully the hit itself is reasonable. depreciation curves are just that- curves. i think a lot of people around here are used to a flat slope on ferraris, but in the case of the 296 the slope is a traditional. in both cases the slopes intercept at 3 years anyway. that's when cars lose most but then steady out (and in the case of exotics can go back up). look at the R8--- i sold my 2018 for 150k last year and if my buddy sells it now he'll make 5k on it. the slope on the 296 has hit its base and so if you have one and get the VS in 2 years it won't drop a significant amount more. msrp 450k dwn to 350k. it'll be 350 k in 2 years when the vs arrives.look at % drops in 6 years for the lowly 488. if you think in another two years a 450K msrp 296 drops to under 300 you're smoking something. a new range rover in 2027 will cost 160K.


look at 6 year old 720s prices.

 

i personally am not. just making observations.

 

Is there an idea about the MSRP for the VS ?
How much above the actual 296 ?

Rgds
Tam

 

average TOP client has 15 ferraris, average VIP client has 6.. so yes if it goes to VIPs only from FNA you'll need more than 3 imho esp for spider. Again what I was told off the record.

 

This would mean that the 296VS Spider is more limited than the Pista Spider where ~ 1500 cars were produced. With the Pista Spider, you only needed to own a maximum of 2 Ferraris. I don't think the 296 VS Spider will be more limited than the Pista Spider.

 

Interesting - I thought it was your buying and selling that counted rather than keeping yr 360, 430 458 etc etc. Anyway I stopped and went to Porsche, McLaren and Lambo and couldnt be happier - its like having multiple girlfriends - but less expensive and your wife gets less cranky

 

You should be ready for $465k usd base price for coupe before any options. And $495k usd base before options for spider

 

I agree with you that it won’t be more limited than Pista spider but still a bit tougher to get than coupe for some mysterious reason. I don’t know why Ferrari doesn’t just produce them according to customer preference. Everyone knows the spider holds its value better. And given how sweet the piccolo V12 sounds, it adds a significant user benefit to have the spider. How much more difficult can it be for them to make more spiders of that’s what people want

 

I don't understand when the 296VS will have spoilers like those on the Enzo FXX, the four exhaust pipes are not positioned in the same way as on the Ferrari FXX. This looks very hot.

 

VS is much more track focussed - fast cars / driver cars have a massive difference in appeal.
We will know soon - question is lap time at Maranello.

 

SIMILAR dual spoilers at each realest fender. Same basic design language but more subdued and IT WON’T have the exhaust up there, I don’t think.

 

Z

Zero Koolaid, but 8K miles + track time

 

I really don't think I can fit in the 296 with a helmet which makes the track performance academic for me, frankly. Makes the VS sort of silly to buy as well unless it's just better all around.