@Bas MBS has been listening to you: https://www.planetf1.com/news/fia-president-pitches-v10-return-formula-1
Maybe I'll start watching again. Next on the list: dump the halos and reintroduce genuine track boundaries.
We'll lose some major manufacturers IF the V10's come back.(who freaken cares). We'll gain some independent engine manufacturers IF the V10's come back. Yeah, definitely people will go to the venues just to experience the noise. Bring headphones for the children.
Little to no chance. Expensive shift and tech move. F1 loves big auto makers Losing them is utterly counterproductive to the series. Pick a NA motor to lobby for. Why not V8 etc. The aero limits passing and closer racing overall. MBS waste of Brainpower needs better Stewards etc. PU is way down the list. MS era was full of - its boring commentary about that era of dominance too. So better racing or V10 or V8. Fix the aero and other things like fewer street circuits etc. F1 is very popular with the hybrids as is!!
If you´re going to do such step backwards, why V10? If they have to use outdated, simpler technology why not at least allow them freedom?
These V10's, if proposed and passed, would run on E-Fuel meaning 0% carbon emissions out of the tailpipe. Vettel ran his 1994 FW14B(V10) several years ago on E-Fuel on a track and 0% emissions. The carbon footprint with these ICE-ATMO platforms would diminish with the introduction of E-Fuel from a global scale since the infrastructure(gas-petrol stations) is already there. Problem solved.
Yes, I think some manufacturers could loose interest if F1 abandon new technologies. Who cares ? Well, they are at the moment the biggest investors in F1 ! We could go back to a "garagist" series with 1 or 2 engine suppliers: a low-cost F1.
Smaller lighter cars are needed more than V-whatever size motors. There are now special rules for Monaco as an example with the SUV sized race cars being driven as F1 cars.
Yep, at least give engine builders some choice: V6, V8, V10, V12 or whatever. Also, allow atmo or turbo. Equivalency shouldn't be too hard to determine. Let's no forget a 4cyl turbo won a hotly contested championship once !
No, it was a BMW-powered Brabham driven by Nelson Piquet. Also, Ascari won the 52 and 53* WDCs with a 4-cyl Ferrari ! *Granted the 1952 and 1953 F1 championships were run under F2 rules.
100% agree. I'd go up to V18/ W18 engines. 4 stroke and 2 stroke as well.... as for "V-10"s being old tech... not so fast... a V-10 using modern materials could easily be knocking on the door of 25K - 30K RPM by now... new valve tech, ceramics, etc... connected to hybrid tech... would be fascinating ... open up the active aero and you could see some really innovative designs... it all can be used on road cars as well.
I've long held that increased manufacturer involvement over the last two decades has done more to hurt F1 than help. A return to the eighties and nineties team and engine supplier model would put the series back in the hands of racers rather than corporate executives and politicians whose priorities often conflict with the sport's interests. Given the economics at stake, it won't happen. Much like Ferrari's IPO, that horse has left the barn.
You quite literally have been told ZERO information regarding this V10 idea, yet already call it an expensive shift. The shift can be done extremely cheaply. Look at development cost for the 2006 onwards V8. Cosworth spend only 20 million to develop their V8. Manufacturers more but not detrimantally so. Compared to even outfitting a current season worth of engines to a single team, it doesn't even come close to that cost, if you do it per the 2006-2013 rules. As for F1 teams "leaving", give me a single good reason why A) they would and B) why would anyone care and C) Why wouldn't they be sold? A) they won't leave because teams already are profitable or near profitable B) Those that announce they would leave, good riddance. All they want is the powerplay C) Buyers would line up. Cheaper cost + a better sounding engine that fans adore, will only result in viewership going up, which means more sponsorship money, which means more money in teams' pockets. It's a win across the board.
This has to be seen, but I am not against a change. The present rules are too restrictive for me and prevent innovation. But restricting F1 to V10 only isn't the solution. Let's the engine builders bring up different solutions.
I discussed this in another thread… it is a common misconception that sustainable fuels are emission free. At the tailpipe the emissions are the same as standard fuel because the fuel molecule is the same for both (hydrocarbon). The difference comes in how the fuel is manufactured. Bill
The cost friendly solution would be a ''spec'' V10 much like the 2006-2013 V8 regs where ''spec''. engine regs like WEC/IMSA could too be the solution but I think the big issue is I believe they have BOP, which essentially makes a free for all engine reg in F1 pointless and enormously costly. I'd love to see it though. IMSA now has V6TT, V8TT, V8 NA and the V12 NA.
All the FIA and F1 have to do is to decide a power limit, and give engine builders the choice to obtain it, just like WEC/IMSA. I think that limit should be determined by what the circuits can take (900bhp perhaps,). Same for aero: give a downforce limit for front and rear axle (300kg and 700kg perhaps?) and monitor it with sensors on cars. The only dimensional limits should be width, and width. Keep It Simple
