Fiorano Handling Package on 575M or not?

If you don't mind posting the chassis number (last 6) then I could see what the registry in Nathan's book shows (if anything).

 

Congrats on your 575!

Sounds like you have fhp by your spring. As for whether it was factory optioned or not, once you register on the myferrari app, your options will be listed.

Dealer is incorrect, 205619 did not come on a 2002. It’s nice the prior owner already upgraded the shock ecu for you!

 

Congratulations on your new toy!

Assuming dealer has access to same info as Ferrari app they should be able to check in seconds…

 

205619 is a shock absorber ECU, not a hydraulic steering ECU, and it was never fitted to any production 575M. After the changes made at Assembly No 52556, Ferrari took all the lessons learned from the earlier shock ECUs and made replacements for all early shock ECUs, 205618 and 205619. Yours likely originally came with shock ECU 183960, which was set up way too softly, and an earlier owner wisely swapped it out for 205619.

Tell your dealer to stop lying to you, especially if he really has no idea of what he is talking about. There was no 575M FHP shock ECU. If you want to check and see if she has FHP, look at the paper tags or printed part number on the front or rear springs, although even these can be swapped. You could also measure the diameter of the rear anti-roll bar. With paint it should be 21.5-22 mm in diameter.

The actual 575M hydraulic steering ECU is part number 175891.

Congratulations on your new 575M.

 

I think there is always going to be a preference for a car that came with FHP from the factory. By the looks of the website screenshot, this doesn't have it from the factory.

Now people who are "in the know" would tell you that for your own enjoyment for a 2002-2003 car like this one, you could almost replicate the FHP package by getting the Maranello Skunk Works (MSW) Steering ECU first, then you'd get the Shock ECU 205619 (as that's all that's still left on the market), and then you'd add the MSW roll bar, and finally you'd try to find the FHP springs (I just got FHP fronts from Maranello Classic last week and HGTC rears since they didn't have FHP rears but they are very similar). Getting FHP on your car from the start saves you some of this time collecting parts, but you can get pretty close to an original FHP if you work at it. Oh, and the Shock ECU was the most expensive part to source, so you are one step ahead of most!

 

From Nathan registry data on the book 128196 2002 Grigio titanio interior pelle Nero F1 LHD and no comments.
I had something similar to your case and bought the car priced as no FHP always had the hope of it being a FHP because of the red calliper. I bought Nathan book to also check and the data from my wasn't correct as it showed it as euro version LHD but sold in the UK (it was sold in Germany from new so the UK was mistaken) it confirmed the manual transmission and calipers. to my surprise when I joined the myferrari app I was able to confirm the car had FHP from factory

 

I have only skimmed this but the short version:
Either ask your dealer to print out the option list (I have done this now several times, it should not be an issue) or directly go and check if it has the various parts (aka PN listed on the springs or pull the steering controller and check the part number on the steering controller).

If no FHP, no big deal - just stepwise upgrade the parts if you so fit. If already to your liking its a mute issue.

 

I’m pretty sure the prior owner already upgraded the steering ecu if you thought the steering weight was good.
I had the regular ecu on mine originally, steering was disconcertingly light. The fhp steering ecu really beefed it up, feels much more “normal”

 

Fastest way to cut through the BS is to get a caliper and measure the rear anti-roll bar. IIRC FHP 22mm (23?, been awhile since I measured mine), stock 19mm. No need to be on lift.

IMO, if the car has been maintained and is in excellent mechanical condition, I wouldn't pass on it for lack of FHP.

 

Stock 17 mm plus paint, FHP 21 mm plus paint, HGTC 19.5 mm plus paint.

Yes, you want to change out the rear anti-roll bar first, see how you like it and then think about springs. Upgrade order since you already have a good shock ECU:
FHP/MSW hydraulic steering ECU
FHP/HGTC/MSW rear anti-roll bar
FHP/HGTC springs, very hard to find, likely easy to match for custom winding.

 

" And it’s lovely so i won’t pass on it. "
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Congratulations!!! You are really, really going to like driving it.

 

"330 gtc"
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I was "imprinted" on Ferraris of the late 50s and 60s. A 575M was as close as I could get financially and practically. The size and body curves of the 575 are the Swan Song for Ferrari of that era.

 

I normally advise people to sit a while with what they have before they get into modding, but if it is in fact the case that the car does not have FHP, I do endorse going through with at least the mechanical mods. I used to think, “what’s wrong with this?” But as with all of my cars, I start to desire the best possible version of what I have, so I started going down the FHP rabbit hole. I’m SUPER glad I did. As I have said here before, it simply sharpened some things and in no way made the car intractable or harmed its delightful GT ethic. I highly recommend the MSW products and the FHP springs.

 

Unless they are making another batch, FHP springs are now NLA. HGTC springs were still available last I checked, however.

 

HGTC springs are only slightly stiffer than the FHP ones.

575M HGTC vs FHP Spring Stiffness Compared to Standard



HGTC

Front Springs: 35% Stiffer
Rear Springs: 15% Stiffer
19.5 mm Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 73% Stiffer

FHP

Front Springs: 32% Stiffer
Rear Springs: 12.5% Stiffer
21 mm Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 133% Stiffer