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  1. HotShoe

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    Not a smart thing to say publicly but it is Redbull’s ball to drop now so he’s kind of right.

    Max has proved if they give him a decent car he can get it done. If they give him a great car again he could go undefeated.

    People don’t like him but his skill set is undeniable.
     
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  2. Bas

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    Jos isn't Max.
     
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  3. ktu

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    Yeah Max usually waits until the season starts. Do you think Max disagrees with Jos?
     
  4. Bas

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    Irrelevant twaddle as per.

    Know what you're pushing at though and it's been debated ad infinitum, you didn't get it then you won't get it now. Next!
     
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  5. ktu

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    Awww yeah, right, all a sudden throwing your team under the bus is irrelevant. The flip flop method doesn't work with me. You should know that.:cool:
     
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    Well, Max doesn't believe he can beat the team in orange for the moment according to Dutch media.
     
  7. uniqueMR

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    Speculation + mind games.
    Lets wait for season and how it goes. Never underestimate Max and RB :)
     
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  8. HotShoe

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    Flip flop? You mean like saying you want to win and then asking to retire the car when you can’t keep up?

    :D
     
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  9. ktu

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    Nah, bad example.
     
  10. Alexweav79

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    Actually really good example.
     
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  11. ktu

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    Provide proof of Sir Lewis Hamilton in a position to win a race and made the decision to retire the car.
     
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    How did you know @HotShoe was talking about Hamilton in post# 2883 ? :)
     
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  14. HotShoe

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    We'll see soon. :cool:

    Certainly wouldn't be the first time he's cried "wolf!" and then went out and obliterated everyone. Red Bull and Max love to play psychological games and sandbag.

    Interesting pre season dichotomy though, Ferrari has all but said "we are going to win it all" and Red Bull is saying "We'll be lucky to win anything."
     
  15. ktu

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    Because he had mentioned in a previous post that Sir Lewis Hamilton wanted to retire the car.
     
  16. DF1

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    And then Mclaren decimate all lol :) :)
     
  17. HotShoe

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    Yep. That’s who my money is on this year. I think the rest will just be fighting for the first loser position (2nd place).
     
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  18. Bas

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    Not a flip flop and you know it, you and me have had this very discussion multiple times. You either forgot the reasoning or, just as likely, you never comprehended the argument in the first place. And don't bother saying that I'm disrespectful to you, until you can demonstrate any reasonable amount of intelligence, it's a simple statement of fact.
     
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    LOLOLOL
     
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    A stark contrast would be Fernando Alonso's 2012 European Grand Prix result. He started 11th and finished first with a crappy car through guts and attrition. It's one of the finest drives I think I have seen.
     
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  21. ktu

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    Bro, again you say the same rebuttal whenever I call you out. I try to make it as simple as possible. You said the topic of throwing your team under the bus is irrelevant. You never used the word irrelevant when you said Sir Lewis Hamilton was doing it. I can't make it any simpler than that. But as usual you resort to insults.
     
  22. Bas

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    For the final time:

    The narrative around Lewis by the press, his fans, himself has always been the same "Lewis, man of kindness, would never throw his team under the bus" Yet plenty of examples.

    Max never had this attitude. Neither do his fans. Or indeed, the media. Ergo, Jos (!!!) throwing the team under the bus a) is irrelevant twaddle as it isn't Max b) doesn't apply as Max is not on the ''man of kindness'' tour of eternal self publicity.

    Only reason I'm typing it out yet again is because I really can't be bothered trawling through your endless drivel and complete and utter inability to comprehending basic English.

    Lewis is held to a different standard because he and his PR firm spin this very narrative of him, and have done for the last 15+ years. All I'm doing is pointing out the hypocrisy.

    Ps as I already explained to you, it can't be an insult when it's a statement of fact.
     
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  23. ktu

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    It seems like you are trying to say Max's image/narrative is different, therefore its not as bad when he throw the team under the bus. No free pass for him.
    The reason why you see the press/fans label Sir Lewis Hamilton as kind is he is heard praising the team more than not. I can't count how many times he praise and encourage the team. You try to pick the rare time he blames the team and turn a blind eye to the constant praise of his team. That won't work with me. The reason why you never hear Max in this light is because of his attitude on and off track. The press can only react to what the drivers put out. If Sir Lewis Hamilton is thought of the man of kindness, that's the energy most see. If Max gives the opposite, that's what he produced. I tried to type all of this simple for you to comprehend.
     
  24. Alexweav79

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    He was in a race, he always wants to win, and asked to retire from qatar. There ya go.
     
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  25. ktu

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    He was not in a position to win.
     

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