Took her out again today , properly , with the roof down - fantastic !! Unusually superb sunny Sunday Mother’s Day in UK today and was out in the spider around the Cotswolds- beautiful windy country roads . I can confirm that the driving experience - to me at least - feels much more heightened than the standard SF 90 Spider …. Everything feels more urgent , more agile . The sound on accelerating is fantastic and fascinating - the ‘Whoosh’ of air is intoxicating everytime you push the pedal in 2nd gear …. I’m not technical but I’m guessing to me it’s exaggerated as the air intakes are right behind your ear . To me the car feels bigger when parking /manouvering in tight spaces but almost smaller when driving at pace than the standard SF90 Spider .. That might be my mind playing tricks but I don’t think so . Either the electronics or the Mechsnicsk set up make the XX feel much more touch responsive than even the standard car but not in a worrying way . I felt no real scuttle/shake as I swiftly ( ) tackled some gorgeous winding country open roads today . The 2500-4500 rev range is addictive - totally a sweet spot I found today . I’m sure il put a lot of miles on this car - the fact there is no luggage /baggage space is immaterial - il just wear all the clothes for the weekend ! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Great writeup @JagShergill. Glad you're feeling better, and happy to hear the car is as good to drive as it looks.
Thanks for sharing your impressions. The XX is 140mm (5.5") longer, 28mm (1.1") wider and 39mm (1.5") taller so it makes sense that it feels larger. Good to hear that it shrinks around you as you drive though. I'm really curious about how the car behaves vs. the standard SF90 in sport mode, and how much you need to be in race to appreciate the deltas.
I wasn’t aware the car is 39mm (1.5”) taller. That’s quite a bit. I wonder what part(s) got taller, because I don’t think the wing is higher than the top of the roof?! That means something else grew…
I was wondering the same thing. It has to be the XM antenna, that looks like the tallest point on the car. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Those are the official dimensions indeed, but the extra 39 mm in height must be because of the antenna (only coupé). I'm inlcined to think they just copied dimensions from coupé to spider for the spec sheet and they made a mistake. No way the XX is 40 mm taller than the Stradale.
Just checked with dealer GM, who sent the factory drawings below. Height is actually the exact same as the regular SF90 at 1226mm (kerb height) to the top of the antenna of the stradale. The spider height remains at 1186mm. Perhaps more interesting is where the length dimensions have changed on the car’s…
All those people who think that an SF90 XX is just a wing on top of the standard SF90 and that's it, have been badly mistaken. After some drives, I can confirm that it's a completely new car. Much more emotional, than a 296 or standard SF90. The brakes are from another planet. In addition, the perfect steering and the boost on the bend make the car a real weapon. The car has such an impressive presence on the road that people stop on the road to take pictures. No comparison with the 296 or SF90 or Pista. A league of its own. It looks and drives like a racing car. Respect to Ferrari for the performance. To all critics, drive the cars before you pass judgement.
I took delivery of my coupe on Saturday, and although I haven’t had an extended time behind the wheel, I echo the sentiments above. I loved my SF90AF, and the XX is just more of what I liked. More engaging, more dramatic, more comfortable (I know that makes me seem old, but Magnaride and the new lightweight seats are game changers) and more exciting. I love the shorter gear ratios (at least they feel shorter, maybe that’s a software trick) and the car is simply extraordinary. I’ll have more involved driving impressions once the weather and my work schedule cooperate, but based on a very short sample of about 50 miles on the street, I love the car.
You only go on data without having driven the car. A TDF is just 180 kilos lighter. You don't have to buy an XX, yet the car is fantastic and attracts more attention than almost any other car out there.
XX doesn’t feel light like a Speciale but it doesn’t feel heavy either. It feels solid, meaty and planted, and certainly feels ballistic! Ours has not been taxed since after the month we bought it due to weather etc but I’m thinking of doing that in April. I think I want to drive it to Le Mans with some friends. Hopefully they’ll be able to take my luggage Even with the running-in use we’ve had so far, it feels quite different to the standard car. I haven’t had enough speed to tell if the aero makes a substantial difference but I think it must do when you’re on it a bit more. With our car’s Le Mans livery I think I have to find a way to persuade my friends so we can take it (although our channel crossing is currently booked for Puro at the moment). Should be able to get a go around the track with it before the race. Ending up doing that with a Purosangue might make me wish I had tried harder with my friends!
Does anybody have any estimates on the breakdown on how many cars are getting the Magnaride vs Multimatic suspension? I told Tailor Made that I wanted the Multimatic suspension and they almost looked at me like I had ten heads and said I was only the second person to come through wanting the Multimatic suspension. They seem to think it'll impact resale. But if it's that rare then maybe the opposite will be true. Note, I actually designed my driveway so that I have no problems coming in or out with my 16M, which is an inch lower than stock. I guess my feeling is, 20 years from now it may be one of the few cars with the trick suspension and may be a premium. Today, it probably impacts resale as you have to find the right buyer who doesn't need a lifter.
This is longer and includes untested ideas of mine. So the below is my opinion, and I appreciate other people's thoughts here. My belief is that the Ferrari market, in general, will maintain higher luxury and not move to low weight. If one assumes that all performance cars are below/near 2 seconds 0-100 km/hr and 9 sec 1/4 mile because of their powertrain, then handling, external design, and internal luxury will be the purchasing variables. (Scarcity is the main variable). This will also keep option pricing high at 20% of the total MSRP. I say this because, IMO, the brand is about winning/dominance, engineering innovation, exclusivity, and luxury. The company's brand was self-generated and not painted on. The storytelling regarding F1 and other racing, the personalities, etc., all fit in the buyer's mind. This storytelling can override luxury or innovation. Any option that enhances or preserves this in the buyer's mind will be worth more % of the initial price. This is why the usual "track" road cars have Alcantara everywhere, even though they never see the track. Alcantara is not luxury, but it is part of the racing storytelling. Take the "track" out of that road car config, and it's not going to be the usual spec. I think a good reason to own the lifter is so the owner doesn't feel like they are losing value when they scrape the bumper. I also believe (untested) that any option that preserves these brand values will be good for resale. The lifter is one. I say this because having the front of the car scrape can break the driver's image of being a great driver. The lifter preserves the storytelling of driver glory. A scrape to the front end injects a feeling of loss. This is my belief in most options. Fitting the storytelling and brand values drives option value. No one wants to be seen by other drivers or pedestrians as the "driver scraping their 'Ferrari' on the road." That doesn't look like F1 storytelling. Steering wheel lights are another. They support the mental image by placing the owner in the racing storytelling. Of course, none of these options are binary in their value to these brand values. They are variable, just like where you put external carbon. That's why many silently ask if they need the rear diffuser to be carbon fiber instead of other visible external optional CF parts. Enough from me on this.
Isn't the story telling here that the XX is close to a race car so it should have the racey suspension? That seems to be the big picture to me.
That’s an extremely good point. I would agree with you. Especially since it’s being sold as an XX car.
I think both are racy suspensions, it’s just that the non-lifter (Multi-Matic) is racier. I think the magnaride on the standard car is more than up to the task of containing the mass on a twisty country road. They say both have been improved for the XX and they really strongly recommended the lifter suspension. I think their track versions are really not literal cars, but rather, street cars that are calibrated to bring you a little closer to race car sensations. Anyway, I can see the argument for the non-lifter: you want to have the full experience. But, aside from the obvious counter arguments of you get the lifter and bumpy road mode with the lifter suspension, I also wonder if the non-lifter is so good at body control that getting a sense of the cars motions only comes at higher speeds and cornering loads and makes driving at lower speeds less involving?
Much better looking than F80 in my opinion and it seems more of a logical successor looks wise than an F80 to the LF.
A related question - Is the XX any lower than an SF 90 AF? The pics below given the impression that it's not even 1cm lower. I've driven my SF 90 AF around just fine without bottoming out and without needing a lifter. So if it's roughly the same ground clearance I see no reason to chose the Magnaride. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Do you ever have anything positive to say? With a friend like you one would need some heavy depression meds LOL
My SA told me in our market we can not select the Multimatic, I would get them in a heartbeat if I could.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2024-ferrari-sf90-xx-spider first auction to test the market, wondering what the list price is? an absolute ton of options so presumably around 1m euros
