Scuderia Ferrari 2025

The press are having fun with Ferrari Imola results. Poor overpaid Charles lol. His world implodes yet made double what Carlos did. Still - NOT- Happy lol.
Charles can enter the design room and fix it all. The cars problems are well known. Stay positive in the press or shut it Chuck.

Hamilton/Leclerc swap roles in Ferrari slump - The Race.com

Ferrari snatched respectability from the jaws of humiliation at its home race, where its car was brutally exposed as a midfield one at its very worst.

A deserved double Q2 exit, entirely on merit, reflected how compromised the SF-25 is in certain conditions: the bumps and kerbs of Imola taking it even further out of its ideal set-up window than it already needs to be run in while awaiting a suspension fix coming mid-season.

It left Charles Leclerc very downcast after qualifying and no better after the race when he was compromised by safety car timings boosting others and didn’t have another usable set of tyres to switch to for the final restart.

Sixth for him and fourth for Lewis Hamilton marked a very good recovery from 11th and 12th on the grid, but only one of them seemed to see the bright side.

Hamilton was much chirpier and optimistic through the weekend, perhaps because he is starting to show signs of matching Leclerc more for pace again even though Ferrari’s slipped back. Whereas Leclerc is just cutting a forlorn figure who realises this season is already slipping away too much to recover.

That’s quite the opposite to where the two drivers were a couple of races ago. And now Leclerc's assuming the worst for Monaco this week while Hamilton is excited for it.

 

I do agree that Charles is overpaid for a non WDC, to a point. My point is that Ferrari didn't seize the opportunity to build a team because they felt signing a has been to sell hats was more important than car performance.

Rare poor take from The RAce. Leclerc was faster once again all race just unlucky, only reason Lewis went from 6th to 4th at all was because of the Leclerc/Albon issue.

 

/\ /\ Reminds me of Abu Dhabi 2021. Now all a sudden people have a problem with safety cars and pit stops

 

Leclerc must be among the 3 or 4 fastest drivers of the moment, but Ferrari isn't the team to win him championships, probably.
Having dedicated his career to the Scuderia, it will be difficult for him to seek another berth.
Not knowing if he is on the wish list of team principals, it's difficult to imagine where he could go.

 

Yes - agree. Downside to long term contracts. If you are not improving, getting results and showing you can get more out of the car after a few years, you are now journeyman. Unless Ferrari make him a better car, he is out of luck in terms of moving. F1 is finally realizing there is talent to promote and can be paid less early on. Why Ferrari paid him double Sainz is beyond me.
No matter what drove the LH decision Charles has few options and most would be a downgrade unless Mercedes or Mclaren open up a seat. He will never go to RedBull unless Max leaves early and they pay off whats left of his contract, but Oscar would be a better choice than Charles clearly. He should be smiling and keeping his negative comments out of the press and in the briefing room.
Life is good no matter how bad Ferrari are doing and above all - He asked for this. Literally. He should look at Alonso's time at Ferrari. Its rather a mirror to his in some ways. Years of close but not enough etc. Thats Ferrari overall. I dont see Charles ever at Williams lol.

 

Is Charles Leclerc the new Chris Amon ?
When he was finally completely disheartened of Ferrari constant failure, Amon drove for mid-field teams like March, Matra, Tecno, Ensign, BTM, Tyrrell and even his own Amon car. It was a trajic end of career.

 

I hope Ferrari improve more this year. I hope the new car is better. Maybe then Charles and the team can be pleased and move forward. I have hope but remain grounded they will not be the strongest just yet.

 

Over one lap there is no one quicker than Leclerc not even Max.... overall package though for me it is still Max and peak Lewis they are still the gold standard. I am very impressed by Piastri though.

Funny enough I thought having a driver with leadership skills like Lewis would help Leclerc but it seems to me that he is a little fed with it all. He wants to be fighting Max like he did in early 22.

 

Charles being a loud whining over paid elongated circle driver wont help the technical aspects of the car that are lacking. Oscar is the better racer already. Being fast over 1 lap is not the reputation that wins titles. Calm, cool and precise, well timed moves and performance under pressure do win titles. Oscar over Charles 24/7. Charles is not as savvy as he should be. He looks great and floats the Monaco Playboy Ferrari driver/Ferrari super car driver - collector as well. He absolutely does not come across as a WDC in waiting at all to me. Sainz on the other hand can probably scrape 1 out as he is the better, smarter racer. They fired the wrong driver.

Sainz has taken the Williams opportunity, shown up to race, and is out pacing Albon now. He is a racer. Adaptable, focused. He has not whined our cried over his Ferrari release. He has been getting it done with Williams. I would hire Sainz over Charles any day. Charles does not look or sound like a leader. Compare his words after Imola and LH. No contest. That should be Charles!!!!!!!

 

Imola, Sainz starts 6th ends 8th, Albon starts 7th ends 5th. Season pts, Albon 40 Sainz 11. Sainz needs to pick up his "out pacing Albon"

 

Ferrari kept the driver who flatters best their image.

 

Since you always say that the final results are what matters, maybe you can show the statistics that prove your assertion.
Leclerc vs Sainz stats - head-to-head - Formula 1 points

 

For me the bottomline is pretty clear:
Ferrari would be achieving similar results without the cost of Hamilton.

The reason why on the other hand, completely debatable, imho, this echoes past instances where the "acquisition" of a WDC appears to be some sort of smokescreen to distract from the team's incompetence in developing a competitive car...was really hoping Fred would put an end to that, but seems like just more of the same.

 

One good change is that Ferrari has really improved their pit stops. 2.04 last weekend.

 

Agreed. Really doing well in 2025.

That's the only takeaway from this team.

 

Wasn't Charles pit during the VSC >3?

 

Pit stops are easy when nothing is on the line.

 

Well, it's Ferrari's 1st year where they've been consistent in the DHL fastest pit stop for most of the races in 2025.

 

There are no stats that prove my assertion !
We are not talking in terms of racing results here.

Charles Leclerc is more a poster idol that Carlos Sainz Jr, that's why he was kept.
His image of a good looking diletante playboy explained by @DF1 on post#284 fits admirably Ferrari agenda.
They want to re-invent themselves as a luxury brand that goes racing as an aside.

 

Leclerc outperformed Sainz three out of the four seasons they were together. I like Carlos just fine, but I fail to see how he would possibly do better in a title fight when he was outperformed by his teammate three years in a row.

 

Honestly, with the way they are running things, you're most likely right! He was not kept because he's the better driver, even though he is.

 

Maybe Sainz isn't faster than Leclerc, but he looks more steady and less emotional.
Also Sainz can think his own strategy, where Leclerc waits for the pitwall to tell him what to do.
Less whining from the Spaniard too ...

 

This, all of this:
Charles Leclerc is more a poster idol that Carlos Sainz Jr, that's why he was kept.
His image of a good looking diletante playboy explained by @DF1 on post#284 fits admirably Ferrari agenda.
They want to re-invent themselves as a luxury brand that goes racing as an aside.

 

For whatever reason, people likes to criticize even the things that are somehow working, I don´t know exactly why. Maybe it´s the mentality of "everyting is wrong, level it and start from scratch", or maybe it´s that some like to play the smart ass.

Leclerc has outpaced and outscored Sainz more often than not. Maybe Sainz is very good at reading strategies but the results don´t show it. If they had kept Sainz instead of him you´d be saying that keeping the slower driver was stupid. He moans, but less than the average in F1. Some are even criticizing him for his looks. Come on, guys...

The bad idea was bringing Hamilton, we already had a good pair of drivers. But that´s another story and I get that maybe it was a rare chance they didn´t want to let pass. Anyway, so far Leclcerc is also outpacing and outscoring Hamilton. It´s the second time he does that to a multiple times world champion. I don´t know if Leclerc is champion material, but he´s indeed the Destroyer of Champions.

 

A 40 yr old champion lol. He was utterly expected to outpace LH. This is not news. There was only downside for Charles if he didnt.
Sainz would most likely outpace LH as well.