296 VS

So, here's the reality. Dealers get an order call from FNA (or other relevant local distributor) for x # of cars. The dealers are required to submit their orders in the chronological order in which they took them from their customers. I just so happens that the Tops and VIPs are usually first to get a call from the dealer to submit their orders. But if a VIP delayed putting in his order / paying his deposit he may be in the back of the bus. It has nothing to do with any of the speculation about favoritism written about above.

 

None of this is true either.

 

Interior colors Carbon colors stripes paint packages emblems - items you wanted and told no - later are a yes.
Keep in mind prefer Atelier - so perhaps some are allowed at TM.
Carbon tinting on XX wing and wheels came much later -

 

Not so simple
Tops get the letter from the factory / dealer for debut.
Nothing to do with favoritism - okie dokie. Managers and factory reps make decisions - together.

 

Simply untrue. The dealer decides which order slot to award to each customer

 

With the differing opinions of relatively prominent collectors, it is clear that the mystery of how Ferrari really works is still unsolved.

 

Different dealers handle it differently but all “orders” are submitted to FNA and the factory. All must be approved. Dealer gets an allocation and for the most part can determine who gets the build spots out of the approved configurations for that set of allocations.

 

There's a reason that most of the people I know that actually defy the rules, policies, and 'dealer-level' facts that are being mentioned here never bother to correct anyone or post! They love that none of the above applies to them

One thing I've learned over the years is clear: if you have to ask if you're going to get a car, then you're not really Top/VIP/Special/Valued moreso than any other good customer with a relationship at your local dealership. And yes, I ALWAYS have to ask

 

My theory is the dealers usually place the orders in a chronological order but if they want to, they definitely have the ability to expedite. Case in point, I know people who are not VIPs and got their cars among the earliest in my country and I also know a major VIP, whose car collection was posted on Ferrari official Ins before. He owns several Ferrari dealerships and offered to expedite my order if I buy through him. I ended up getting my 296 spider in less than 1 year.

 

Anyone know if on the coupe the engine cover “glass” is tinted glass (like in normal GTB/GTS) or clear Lexan (like AF) - on the config it looks like it’s the heavier glass.

Is there a personalization guide out that can be shared?

 

I have an appointment this afternoon to configure the car, will share any info this evening, if available…

 

With no firm certainty, I still believe that there is a relationship between a dealership and Ferrari (just like there is a relationship between a customer and a dealer, or directly between a customer and Ferrari), and that this relationship depends on some "performance metrics" of the dealer and results (to some extent) in how the dealer is treated by Ferrari.
Even for non limited cars, Ferrari decides how many allocations a dealer gets - it has to be based on something.

 

Glass - carbon is the way to go, wish the electric / gas doors were available I carbon.

 

If a dealer sells more cars like a Roma, they get more of the desired ones to sell as well.

 

Dealers have to meet certain KPIs. The amount of options on each car is not one of them.

Allocations are not really an issue today with 14K cars annual production, dwindling China sales and zero Russia sales. Last year each US dealer got more allocation than they know what to do with it.

 

Interesting perspective. Sounds right.
Do you have any opinions on the 296 Speciale production numbers...the uninformed consensus (me included) believe the as many as the 488 Pista if not fewer.

 

There will be many more produced compared to Pista. The allocations you're hearing about now are just the first round.

 

So, dealer still does not know what is included in carbon and what not.

No minimum spec recquired.

Car must be kept min. 18 months.

 

Is that based on reliable intel? Has ferrari in the past for time-limited special series done a meaningful 2nd round of allocations? If not then that is again upsetting their client base...perhaps they dont' care, but that same client base is going to move on.

14K cars is a LOT and if they start making their time-limited special series cars a lot more than that just dilutes the image of the brand. However, if the demand for Ferrari products has grown over time. It will be 6 years after the pista debut that speciale will come out. In those 6 years demand has grown and if Ferrari is keeping that supply to demand ratio the same as in years prior than I can understand that. but if they are diluting the ratio than not good for the brand.

 

Also, to add, I have specifically asked multiple dealers about whether they will get a second round of allocations and they have categorically said no. So if some of the forum members have information that the dealers don't have that's a different story. Could the dealer be unaware, sure that's a likely possibility. But if they are flat out not being upfront/truthful to their customers than unfortunately, another ding for the customer experience. Client's will not keep losing money to buy special series models (time or number limited) that don't hold value because of supply or lack luster product. If Ferrari is going down that path, it will only tarnish the brand which has previously thrived on exclusivity, customer experience and value retention of special series model.

 

From a timing perspective, a second round of allocations would likely push production well into 2028 depending on when they were released. From what I have read, production was scheduled for 2026-27.

 

Time limited means they will make as many cars as they have time to make.

They have done this with the Pista, the Speciale and the Scud before that. They always release a certain number of cars and then more allocations become available later in production. In the past you didn't notice because it was a small amount of cars. But the effect today is much more pronounced because the production capacity (and Wall Street greed) is much higher.

Do you really believe anything Ferrari has to say anymore about production? The 812 GTS was only for the "best customers". Ferrari will not make a special series of the SF 90 so you need to get the Fiorano package. We're only making 499 16Ms. When are you guys going to stop believing the dream of exclusivity? The only exclusivity is for 700 (used to be 500) or so top customers. Let's mark this post and revisit it in three years after which everyone in this thread who wanted a car but didn't initially get an allocation has a shiny new car in their garage built to their spec.

 

Is it fair to say that demand for Ferraris have gone up 40%? (that's just based on the increase in VIPs from 500 to 700) So a production run increase from 10K to 14K adds up. I am not saying there is any spectrum of exclusivity in the normal production run ferrari either. Only the limited series (whether it be time or number limited). I would expect that demand for those should far exceed supply. If that doesn't happen, whether that's me being naive or learning the hard way, it will be time to move on for me as well. Agree i would love to revisit this in 3 years. It would be great if people even update the poll that was created and update their answers. we'll track it from there and see.

 

The pyramid of exclusivity demands their “limited” cars to be produced more than before but still below the market demand by a large margin. But ultimately still depends on how much other models they can sell. For a manufacturer like them, it’s all about the opportunity cost of their current production line, if they can’t make the money on normal production cars (use up their production capacity), then they might just kills the goose that lays the golden eggs, and go for a more short term profiting strategy, which is produce more to satisfy the demand in the mid section of the pyramid, ie these VS models.

 

Just seeing what menthe with HREs could look like.
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