Coolant Type 488

I would also like an answer. I've been going crazy trying to get a straight answer!
At least we know that it should either be a G-48 or a G-30, so we are down to 2 choices. I think I came up with G-30 the last time I researched about 1/2 year ago, but not sure why.
I think it's because I heard that we need to use an OAT product. G-48 is a HOAT I believe.

I just found this post from a member here, and I think it may explain some of the confusion:

"glycoshell has always been a semi-universal coolant. it transitioned over from a NAP-free borated HOAT (commonly associated with G48) to a pure OAT because of the millions of VW group vehicles on european roads. naturally this also covers ford with havoline xlc (dexcool) and gm with g34.

agip ecopermanent, dexcool, paraflu UP and the entire basf g30 family are all functionally identical

anyways glycoshell never had nitrites at any stage. it was selected because it was what shell had to offer for antifreeze at the time. if you really need SCAs I would upgrade to Rotella ELC."

So If it changed from a HOAT to an OAT, that explains why we are confused. If that's correct, I'm thinking that the G-30 is correct at this point.
I really hope to get an answer soon because I am changing the coolant this fall.

I wonder if we can send the fluid to a lab, like Blackstone, etc. to analyze it and tell us if it's a G-30 or G-48. I would really like an accurate answer, because I know if we mix the wrong coolants together, it can cause major issues and gel up in the system.

 

Coolant flush is on my short list for my 2016 488 GTB after doing the spark plugs last month (posted my experience). -Anyone have any DIY or at least lessons learned to share?

 

OEM is G30 - but look what is in there to make sure someone didn't change ..if you flush you can use g30 or g40

 

I'm not sure what they use in Canada but definitely according to the user manuals they already moved to the g12 + in USA ..the 458 was the transition

Ferrari never used g05 in any of their cars from the 360 up

 

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Here is a site I like to use to double check things

https://oilguide.ravenol.de/?lang=en

 

Thanks I will review that section. 7200 miles, took some patience, search my post last month. Getting the coils out took the longest, overall about 8 hours but I went slow as first time on this model.

 

Those will be done this summer too. Didn’t change the coils, just did the plugs based on the recommended 8 year service interval. Great info above for selecting the right coolant, thanks all!

 

I did check the manual ..I believe you are incorrect due the name being some similar ...shell didn't make it clear

I will of debate this anymore.. every one can have their opinion ..mine is written in .annual and supported by other websites

The coolant that was OEM is a direct equivalent to g12 or g30

Again no Ferrari at least from 1999 has ever had g05 ..g48 was used in 360 and 430...the 488 used g12 which is g30 or better yet used g40

Look at the color in there ..maybe someone used the wrong coolant

 

You are relying on a website to tell you what is the equivalent..it is wrong

Remember the names are so similar for OEM g48 and g30 that it understandable how a mistake can be made

 

I agree with what you said what the manual says but I disagree what the equivalent is I clearly showed it above that it's a g12 plus your website that you picked out I believe is incorrect or it just has the name wrong cuz they're very very similar

 

I realize the colors don't mean anything but in this case they do the 4:30 was filled with blue fluid the 488 was filled with red pink fluid showing you that there was a difference

 

The problem is that an OAT fluid and an HOAT fluid is not compatible with each other. It seems to me that the original is an OAT fluid, whereas the G 48 is a HOAT fluid which would make it incompatible. So it sounds like a G 30 should be more compatible if I’m reading it right. If Carix is G48, wouldn’t it be a HOAT? My research seems to point to the Carox being an OAT.
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So basically you're saying that it's the same fluid as a 430 which is 100% wrong

Sorry

Let's see who's had the 488 from the beginning and has done its own maintenance what color the fluid is when it came from the factory I guarantee you it was pink red which is g12+ not not g48 which is blue

Btw g05 was developed for Ford, Chrysler and MB in the early 2000s .iirc could off on date
..good coolant for some.older Ferraris like A 512 TR etc btw ...it is a good replacement for older Ferraris that used green coolant

 

you keep pointing to that website - it is misleading you - it is plain wrong
You are relying on that one site and just a "heading" to understand equivalent fluid - the website you are sighting has multiple errors ..approvals for VW point to a G30 fluid not g48 ... color says red in title and yellow in description, it says OAT when g48 is HOAT - it is actually describing a G30 mostly in body and says G48 in heading
Here is another site that has it correct
https://www.kemetyl.nl/nl/shop/product/carix-premium-longlife-antivries-20l-3752020/
i have attached G48 specs from zerex and you can see approvals and descriptions of G48 ( HOATS)
The coolant specified in manual is as you say but that website says it is g48 just in the heading but the body describes G30
If you look at the PDS - the product you mention in manual and in the body of your website is VW -774 d/f approved - G48 is only 774-c approval
Please search a little more and you will see that the equivalent to the product you correctly stated in manual ( both for 458 and 488) is G30
G48 was used in 360 and 430
You are more than welcome to use whatever you want but I am more concerned that you are misleading people based on a webpage - not even a PDS
Here are some attachments to help - please see the actual specs of the coolant and you will see how wrong the site you are pointing to is
Then look for what the product description /specs on other websites like the one I provided and you will see that the G30 actual matches ....it actually almost matches all of your website body as well
I hope you see how the website you keep pointing to is incorrect - it contradicts itself
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I am so confused now!!!
I initially saw that the Carix Long life description sounded like an OAT in the body description and the title said G48. But as I look further, it seems like the body mentions OAT, but also mentioned silicates. An OAT with silicates is a HOAT. So now I'm leaning towards it being a G48 which is a HOAT which seems to be the like the Glycoshell (used in 360/430, and I think 458) and I read that the Carix is the replacement for and essentially the same thing as Glycoshell.
This is crazy! I was thinking....if the main difference with the 2 is the fact that the HOAT contains silicates, and the OAT does not, isn't there a way we can test our fluid for silicates to know the proper fluid?