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The Hamilton at FERRARI Era

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  1. HotShoe

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    All that is in the past. Honestly, if he wasn't British I don't think he'd get half the attention and coddling he still does.

    No matter how great his past accomplishments are time marches on. We have new faces to represent F1 and they are actually winning and up front. ;) Lewis' time is up and he knows it. Best to step aside and work for SKY and or go to galas, etc. so he can get the attention he is addicted too because he isn't going to get it on track anymore. If anything his lack of performance the past few years is just tarnishing his legacy. He's accomplished so much why not go out with style instead of looking foolish?

    Fame's a hell of a drug I guess.
     
  2. ktu

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    The only thing looking foolish is Max with his actions. The camera is constantly on Sir Lewis Hamilton even when he is not up front. F1 is still benefiting from having him on the grid even without winning. He has nothing to prove. This won't tarnish his legacy. The new drivers have to work on building a legacy first, before they have the opportunity to tarnish it.
     
  3. jgonzalesm6

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    EVERY multi-WDC F1 driver has "looked foolish with his actions." Depends on what your definition of "foolish" is.

    Max, as well as others, aren't into F1 to win a popularity contest. They're to win championships. Might not be your cup-of-tea, and probably not the SkySports pundits, the stewards and the FIA, but Max has quite alot of followers that like his ability to perform on track even though he may be rough at times around the edges.....but who isn't with a character like his.
     
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    The camera is on that guy for dark reasons: he is, and has always been, the most polarizing and controversial figure in F1. His constant need for exposure, his thirst for greatness, his desire for transcendence, his irritating, tiresome, and annoying self-perception—seeing himself as the redeemer, the messiah of the sport—the exhaustion he causes by setting himself up as a self-proclaimed example of life and wisdom... so, yes, the camera is on him because he generates fatigue, weariness, irritation, and annoyance. We long for F1 to return to being a sport about drivers and cars, instead of one dominated by a rock star trying to project onto others his grating self-image as the Messiah, the chosen one, the Jedi Master of F1.
     
  5. william

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    That cannot come soon enough ! :)
     
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  6. SS454

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    Why do you always defend any Lewis criticism with an attack on Max?

    I agree F1 is benefiting from Lewis as he struggles. In terms of milking the cash cow, F1 is getting every penny out of Lewis while they can.

    Lewis has nothing to prove? Perhaps, but I'm reminded of a great Schumacher quote when the show 60 Minutes asked what he has left to prove when he was clearly the best at the time: "you have to prove yourself every time"
     
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  7. ktu

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    I've heard this before. This is straight from the haters handbook.
    Now lets jump back into reality. Sir Lewis Hamilton, is still pulling sponsership, big money contracts, deals, business ventures. All while you're thinking of him and posting about him.
     
  8. Jack-the-lad

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    Do you really believe the brilliant sparkle of Sir’s aura will stick to Ferrari just by his being there for a while? Based on performance to date, he’ll be a mere footnote in Ferrari’s storied history. And frankly the Scuderia isn’t helping his legacy much either.
     
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  9. ktu

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    Schumacher felt like he had something to prove. Sometimes this can be a sign of one not being sure of himself. But thats fine.
    As for the criticism, its because Max still not getting much interest, he can't hold interest. So I help him out by keeping him relevant.
     
  10. HotShoe

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    Not sure what Max has to do with this but whatever makes you feel better I guess.

    You are so drunk on the Lewis Kool Aid you can’t be the least bit objective.

    Even Lewis himself has publicly said that he is now slow and is embarrassed by his performance. Did you not see him crying recently?

    None of this is a good look for him and is frankly very sad to witness even as someone who isn’t a fan.
     
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    Okay.....that's funny. I know you're being whimsical.
     
  12. ktu

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    Watch how much the press and Fchat discuss him at Ferrari. Nothing is a footnote when it comes to Sir Lewis Hamilton.
     
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  14. Jack-the-lad

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    When it comes to legacies the old adage, “Any publicity is good publicity” doesn’t apply, and history is written by scholars, not social media influencers and forum posters. (And for Ferrari it’s written by tough Italian alpha male journalists who don’t always take kindly to Johnny English). The best wrap-up for any legacy story is that the subject knew when to say goodbye. Sir has squandered that opportunity in return for a desperate hope for another championship. He may not have scored his last win….there could be a fluke race…but another championship is remote in any case.
     
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    The delusion is real.
     
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  16. ktu

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    Disagree totally. The scholars will write about Sir Lewis Hamilton's legacy. Not what date they decided to retire. I've watched may documentaries about Schumacher, Micheal Jordan, also Tom Brady. Very little time was spent on the when they decided to retire. It was mentioned, but the scholars put very little thought/time into it. As I said, I've already seen enough from Sir Lewis Hamilton. I'm watching the young guys now. But I still see many here are watching every step of him still, he draws interest so I understand.
     
  17. HotShoe

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    Lol, reading your posts always makes me think of this….



    :D
     
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  18. ktu

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    Thanks, awesome video.
     
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    Being a future Sky guest "GOAT" :rolleyes::oops: host for his favorite races can always be a day for Sir Lulu to show off his new fashion line. He's a bit like a male version of Markle as an all-purpose celeb (although to be fair, he has genuine talent). It is very tiresome to me to hear them constantly shower his feet with kisses, even several years ago when he was lucky to place 6th or lower (before the current era when he's lucky to place 6th or lower), they'd air special "Chat on the Couch with Lewis" segments nearly every race. I FF through those or any similar nonsense. :rolleyes:

    I'm glad in F1 that every driver has to stand up to direct comparison with his teammate, which helps provide perspective. Lulu hasn't fared in such comparisons for years...
     
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    Every driver should have the mindset that he needs to prove he's still the alpha against his peers. I can't imagine any champion, let alone a 7x champion being so weak minded that he just lets himself get spanked each weekend and justifies it with "I have nothing to prove". If Lewis thought this way, he should absolutely retire.

    I personally don't think that's the case at all, he just doesn't have the best car to continue this fairy-tale of greatness.
     
  21. ktu

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    He has nothing to prove to me. I don't know if he feels that way. But truth is he has nothing to prove. Its time for Leclerc and other drivers to build a career as great as Sir Lewis Hamilton's. Sir Lewis Hamilton is already in the history book of greats. The pressure is on these young guys.
     
  22. 375+

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    Still waiting for a direct answer.
     
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  23. HotShoe

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    “Lewis has what fans crave!” ;)
     
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    fair enough. Fans can be content with his career and in the grand scheme of things he does not have anything to prove to add to solidify his "legacy", whatever that means.

    Though Lewis' lack of performance should definitely not be because he has nothing to prove in his own mind. That is a loser mentality and it's a waste of a Ferrari seat if that was the case. Again, I do not believe that is his mentality. I think he does feel a sense to prove his worth and should believe in himself that he can provide something positive on track for himself and the team.

    I also believe that he does have something to prove. It's been mentioned many times before but there are many (including myself) that believe Lewis' career has been more about the cars he drove than his own ability. Since 2022 he hasn't had the best car, with the exception of a few times, and he also had a quality teammate with equal status. In that time Lewis has not looked anything special and has been getting beat regularly by his teammates. It's actually crushing his "legacy" if you ask me.
     
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  25. ktu

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    Nothing can crush his legacy. We can't erase history. No matter how you try to spin it. Again, focus should be on the young guys.
     

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