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Discussion in '296' started by ajr550, Jun 5, 2022.

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  1. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula 3

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    #4276 Cocoloco, Jun 12, 2025
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2025
    Agree but things have changed.
    Factory and Dealers are now massive and local owners who we knew have mostly sold out.
    Fewer local service shops - they don't have computers needed to even think about touching modern.
    Exotic brands know by eliminating competition their cars / owners will return - there is more thought than performance to retain customers / cars.

    My wallet is far from my heart - people vote and spend money when choosing one or the other.
    Prefer my heart when it comes to cars - money will never make one happy. too deep but it's why I love all cars that have intense ./ extreme engineering based on racing and rich history,
     
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  2. ab08

    ab08 Formula Junior

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    I understand your point of view, and respectfully disagree.
    The SP3 costs £2m+ because it is a special line (Icona) built on the basis of a hypercar (LaF Aperta), with a carbon fibre and kevlar construction.
    Ferrari could have a "normal range" mid-mounted V12, with an aluminium body. It would coexist with the SP3 in the same way that the F512 M coexisted with the F50.
    It is worth remembering that Ferrari offered rear-mounted V12s in its regular line-up for almost 25 years, starting with the 365 BB in 1973, up to the last F512 M built in 1997. And the "lustre and brand value" were very high, regardless of the price of the V12 Lamborghini.
     
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  3. Luka56

    Luka56 Rookie

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    EVO most likely, during Free Practice 2 at Le Mans last night one of the commentators mentioned the 296 EVO is coming soon just weeks away from now.
     
  4. Caeruleus11

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    I'm nodding my head with you, but, I have to also note, in the alternative universe, Ferrari is the cash cow inside Stellantis.... while a step or two removed from direct pressure from the stock market, that pressure would still be there.
     
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  5. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
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    I think you have to look at this as the 4 seater, which was always a model in the line up, and a model that was very near and dear to Mr. Enzo Ferrari. I think if they made a 4 seat high riding vehicle (trying hard to not utter the abbreviation which must never be said ;) )... and it was not a V12, then it would be more like everyone else's. The V12 is really the differentiator. Whereas, with mid engine sports cars, Ferrari has a glorious history of mid engine V8s, and now V6s.

    As to flooding the market, I wonder how many Purosangue have been made/ will be made/ and how that compares to FF/ Lusso models. I get the sense it's not much different, but, maybe I am simply not seeing it all. It doesnt look flooded to me though.
     
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  6. day355

    day355 F1 Rookie

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    Regarding the Ferrari clientele today, I would say 20% enthusiasts and 80% show-offs.
     
  7. JDT

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    You forgot flippers..
     
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  8. NGooding

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    I don't have an issue with putting a V12 in a 2+2. But to me, the Puro marks the start of a new lineage, not a continuation of that grand old tradition.

    It's clearly been a lucrative pivot, but not one I personally support. (Not that this should matter a lick to anyone.)
     
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  9. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula 3

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    #4284 Cocoloco, Jun 12, 2025
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    Yes at least 80% they desire association.
    Forum guys - though I complain are more are alike than different.
     
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  10. Spet00

    Spet00 Formula Junior

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    Does anyone know what time we can expect to see the 296 VS Piloti today?
     
  11. Jonathan19

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    Normally, Ferrari does their unveilings at 2 PM (French time).
     
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  12. 355TDI

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    Fair point, however. Why spend millions developing a new platform for a mid-engined V12 when you can sell 600 units for £2m plus while not having to develop a new platform? I am not questioning the idea but just putting it from corporate Ferrari's perspective. I do not think there is a strong enough case. They have a car that occupies that space in the SF90 while still offering a front engine V12 in the 12C. It is not a strong enough business case imho.

    The mid-engined V12 has becomes a premium aspirational experience for special clients and brings bigger margins for the business.

    Again just playing devils advocate.
     
  13. hamzaFCHAT

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    Well, it seems the reveal will take place later than anticipated
     
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  14. chaspion323

    chaspion323 Rookie

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    Just got an allocation for the coupe today. Super excited!!!
     
  15. jo_ker

    jo_ker Karting

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    I ordered (prepaid today) my 296 Speciale Coupe.

    When do you think the first customer cars arrive? I guess Q4 2025 the VVip´s and Q2 2026 starting with us "ordinary people".?
     
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  16. Jonathan19

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    Yes, maybe in the evening.
     
  17. PieGre

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    I ordered mine this morning with the complete config. Should arrive hopefully in Q4 or Q1 2026.
     
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  18. 09Scuderia

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    US guys, EU gets their cars first....(as it should be)
     
  19. Spet00

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  20. Luka56

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  21. KZEVO

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    Thats what it looks like
     
  22. Lagunae92

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    So less good looking than regular ones.
     
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  23. Luka56

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    Honestly kinda disappointed, I’m well aware that the 499 is the center of attention with its brilliant results and all but I thought we would maybe get something refreshing and different, we already have the hypercar inspired livery for the SF90’s…
     
  24. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula 3

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    Confused - the Hyper car buy-in was 200k?
    Guess they waived or ended that and it's now for Challenge owners - or maybe both?
    Love the spec - it's very Ferrari but not so easy to live with around town. Collectors will love it!
     

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