No worries, no rush - have a great time on your vacation and we'll deal with it upon your return. Regards, Scott Bill you are having too much fun but you did not show the bezels on the rear of your Dino!
HelloScott, I'm back home, terminated my vacation early. Bezels & labels can ship as soon as I receive payment
Thanks Verell, I received them quickly. The mushroom cap and spring are difficult to reinstall and I used a LOT of lubricant yet the lever action is far more difficult (binding) than the original - any hints before I do the other 3? THX Also, upon removing the black, round, paddle handle how do they come off of the lever shaft? Mine had a turns in the lever so it looks like you must rotate the blcak handle while pulling to remove it from the original shaft, correct? I ended up cracking one and don't want to do that again.
Hey Verell, Any word on when your replacement black lever caps wll be ready for production & shipping? Been waiting awhile, but will gladly continue to do so for your quality stuff. V/r, mwr
I assume you're referring to the part that mounts in the square thru-hole. If so, then it sounds like the thru-hole is slightly undersize for the piece that goes into it. I've encountered quite a bit of variation in the size of the plastic thru pieces. If that's the problem, use a small file to enlarge the square thru-hole until the plastic piece readily slides into it. If the problem is somewhere else, pls post a picture to help me understand the problem. The disc knobs pull straight off/push straight on. DO NOT TWIST them while removing, they'll break. Mark, I'm still fighting with my CNC machine's controller. I need the machine to make the mold. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, I'm testing another control board & the tests with diagnostic software have been encouraging. Once I have the mill running, it'll probably take me 4-6 weeks to make a usable mold. Also, could you post a picture of the 'turn in the lever'? I've never encountered that before.
Mark, I did not make those lever bezels. From the somewhat rough appearance of the unpolished sections I believe they are sand castings. I'd think you'd need a shoulder screw to keep the lever from being too tight. OOPS!I just realized that I"d posted my request for a picture to the wrong quote. I meant it for Scott.Mac. Altho I'm glad it resulted in my getting pics of your 1-off bezels. Scott, re: 'turns in the lever' are you saying that the shaft is threaded? A picture would be very helpful here.
Photos attached, apologies in the delay. The top row are the original pieces bith fully assembled and then the removed piece while the second row is the same for the new items. VERY nice finishing on the Verell parts, Thank you. First, sorry about that paddle handle turns thing, it is not threaded but was my fault in attempting to remove a stuck paddle - the black paddle was stuck frozen and did not come off easily. It suffered. I've first started on the choke lever which is the least important of all four levers/bezels. Any help in hints to remove the remaining 3 paddles on a 37 year old car is appreciated. I've drizzled penetration oil on the shaft and left it placed the shaft up/paddle down position wth hopes it leeches itself in over time to facilitate removal. I'm in no hurry, just don't want to break another. Secondly, there are two issues that may be related; - removing/replacing the cotter pin/mushroom cap as the strong spring undernesth them requires a lot of counter pressure to remove. It appears I need a cylindrical tool with a slot in it to depress the end cap to compress the spring/relieve tension to allow the cotter pin out; - and the tight lever action which is far more difficult to move on the re-installed new part than the original lever (I'm not saying the new parts are the culprit but possibly my re-assembly or deformation of the end cap). The issue of "lever wander" under full range deflection is not that big of a thing. Any hints on removing/replacing the msuhroom shaped end cap and cotter pin with the stout spring underneath it? I've made a mess of the choke lever end cap by using a vice but its not seen and again it is the least important of all levers. I've thought of a few possible solutions 1) cut a small portion of the spring off to remove the tension 2) replace the spring with a spacer Has anyone else encounter this issue? Thank you in advance Image Unavailable, Please Login
Scott, From the picture it's obvious that Ferrari changed the bezel's design quite a bit after your 246. I've never seen bezels with mounting tabs made the way yours are! Some significant differences that I can see from the picture are: 1)Flat recess along the tab. How thick is the old tab in the recess the thru-hole is in? If the new tabs are thicker, that would increase the spring pressure. Cutting half a turn off of the spring would probably reduce the pressure. Alternatively, I'll be happy to machine a similar recess into your new bezels, but need dimensions to work from. The recess would be bare Al as I'm not setup to replate the chrome, but it's out of site so is a 'don't care'. Loan of one of your old bezels might be the best way to get me the necessary dimensions. 2)Round hole for the lever thru pin vs square hole for the newer bezels. From the picture of the thru-hole it's smaller than the square hole's side to side dimensions so the pin is going to slip around inside the square hole. What's needed is a sleeve that fits around the pin to take up the slack so the pin can't wiggle around. I'll be happy to make up a sleeve, but would need one of your thru-pins or precise measurements to test for fit. Also I could make up a tool to compress the spring at the same time. It'd just be as you described, a piece of rod drilled to clear the pin, with a clearance slot for the cotter key to be inserted/removed. It sort of looks like the knob may be mounted on the lever differently from the newer knobs, but I can't be sure from the picture. Could you post some close-ups of the lever tip, both a end view, and also front & side views. Also, any pix of the inside of the broken knob might be helpful.
I ordered some of Verell's unbreakable bezels recently. I got them last week and have to report that they are more exquisite than any pictures suggest. Almost too nice to bury under the centre consol. The slight spots visable in my pictures are rain drops. So yesterday I began fitting them. As you can see my old stuff had had it completely. Having oiled the cables and greased the moving parts the first one went in without any problems whatsoever. I am delighted. Then ran out of time so hopefully will finish the job off today. My labels are original and in more than OK condition, just need cleaning up. I prefer originality where possible. Will add pictures of the finished job later. Mark Shannon www.markshannon.net Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
They most certainly are: www.unobtainiumsupply.com I would strongly suggest you take a deep breath and do them all whilst you are in there. The originals are just useless cheap plastic. I would have done the choke one as well, but it is in perfect condition having been replaced before and also I never use it, and have taken the chance, whilst in there, to actually disconnect the cable. I finished the job today and spent some time oiling the cables (buy an oiler from a motorbike shop) greasing the moving parts and then adjusting the cables. Forgot to take pictures today but will do so when car next out in daylight. Good luck. Mark www.markshannon.net
Synchro, I now have a limited supply of Unbreakable 246 style bezels. They were custom made for someone who only needed a set for his car but made more & I lucked into them. Other than being new, they look just like the one in your picture in post #184. A few have very small scratches or marks, apparently from being dumped into a bin. I also got an excellent price on them, while they last, they are only $75.69 each, $300/set of 4!!! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Hi Verell, Did you ever get to making the knobs??? I need one, but will take a set to make it right. Your bezels and lables are holding up nicely. Thanks for the fine work, Chris
I've got a machinist ready to make an injection mold for the disc knobs as soon as I get time to finish a CAD drawing for him. So hopefully will be making them this spring. First I need to finish 3 other molds I"ve been promising for a long time.
Sorry if it's already been posted, but how does one remove the existing bezels? Do I need to crawl up underneath the dash? I'm not getting any younger Verell- Do you have a set of 3 bezels with labels for a '74 246 GTS? And do you have the flat black buttons?
(cross posted to 206/246), pls respond there: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/206-246/200338-unscratchable-lever-bezel-labels-dinos.html solly, Yes, I still have what you need for your series 246 GTS, series E (1974). I have a limited supply of Unbreakable (solid aluminum) chrome plated bezels in stock. while they last, they are only $75.69 each, $300/set of 4!!! (3 for dash, + 1 for CHOKE on console). I also supply: Lever Label Plate Set, Unscratchable, Dinos (1-TEMP w/red & blue dots, 2-DEF,1-CHOKE) 246 Dino $95.00. Sold as complete sets to ensure full color match. To order click on my name by this post and select: [Send eMAIL to Verell] Sorry I haven't worked on a 246's bezels. However, from looking at the SPC it looks like it's either reach up under, or pull the dash. Can anyone help with this?
Solly, best bet is to do them lying on your back and looking up into the area where your radio normally would be. You definitely have to remove the radio and, maybe, even the voltage regulator. I'm an old geezer, so I removed the passenger seat and laid on a blanket while working. I did one control at a time, making certain to not switch which cable goes on which slider. It's a very tight space in which to work but it's not a difficult job . . . just a bit uncomfortable. It's well worth the effort. Bill
Hello, I am looking for the choke lever for my dino 308 gt4, 1975. Do you have any of them, or an idea where I could find one? As far as I understand there are not exactly the same as the 308 gtb? Thanks Romain
Is your lever completely missing, or is it just the bezel the lever mounts to that you need? I can supply the correct bezel in metal, see posts #189, #193, & this thread: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/206-246/200338-unscratchable-lever-bezel-labels-dinos.html I am not setup to supply the levers that mount inside the bezels, I suggest you contact the usual suspects that part out cars.
208/328/308 GT4 Unbreakable Lever bezels p/n 60044302-BEZL are available again! These are usable for the TEMP, VENT, & CHOKE levers. I just received the long promised production run from my machinist. The show chrome finish on these is simply stunning!!! Unlike the breakable chromed plastic OEM bezels, these are CNC machined from billet aircraft grade aluminum, then polished to a mirror finish and show chrime (ie: triple Copper/Nickel/Chrome plated). What's even better, the price for this batch is lower!!!!!: $125/bezel, $500/set or 4 bezels!!! To order, send email to Verell You also may wish to buy our Unscratchable Lever Label Plates to complete the project: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/technical-q-sponsored-algar-ferrari/199364-unobtainium-supplies-unscratchable-lever-labels.html Image Unavailable, Please Login
Does anyone know if Verell is still manufacturing the aluminum heater/defroster/choke bezels? I finally had my center console refinished and the original bezels don't do justice to the refinished console. Over 20 coats of polyester. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I tried to contact him couple times by email, for his TR bulb holders, but got no response. Maybe he retired from doing this?
I have emailed and left two messages over a week ago and no response from Unobtanium Supply Company. Does anyone know if they are still in business. The site is operational.