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My rear windows repair

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  1. Alden

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    All repaired and ready to put back in tomorrow!
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    My left one is making a ,clicking noise about 2/3 of the way down, now that I'm not afraid of this repair anymore, I'm going to tackle that window over the next few days.
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  4. Alden

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    The broken entrance sleeves allowed the spiral "stuff" to extend upward and elongate into the loop in the photo, and it would the not engage the gear in the motor when the window was all the way up. This allowed the "spiral stuff,," to extend beyond the gears and it wouldn't would not engage anymore, and broken exit sleeve caused friction in the mechanism, fixing both solve the problem, now she operates smooth as silk.
    Someone had this mechanism out before and did a really botched at an attempted repair!
    Getting the regulator and window out is painful but, not extraordinarily difficult and worth it if your windows aren't working properly.
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    I'm posting all this at 7:00 at night after working on this since 7:00 a.m. so if it seems silly please give me a break!
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    #8 Alden, Jun 19, 2025
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    Really good to have all these pictures on the record. How exactly did you repair that broken plastic sleeve?
     
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    I put a steel sleeve over it , secured it with a hose clamp, shrink tubing and zip ties. Everyone i had.
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    Wow. That was some interesting "engineering" done previously to that poor thing. That whole regulator is quite different than what comes out of mine. I have the "figure 8" looking double loop and a different motor arrangement.(see post #2 under the rear window motor question post)
    Good that you solved your problem. Many happy smooth operations ahead!
     
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    I wonder what "modern" gearbox pieces were retrofitted to attempt the original repair. Never seen a plastic gearbox used on one before. The 2009 and 2010 dates on the pieces are one clue, but i guess it doesn't really matter if it operates correctly now.
    I commend your refit. I would have been quite amazed to find that arrangement lurking in mine.
     
  11. Alden

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    Here's an up close pic.
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    Nicely done! Great to be able to have made that repair. On the other hand, I don't get to see you figure out the elusive Volvo mechanism solution!
     
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    #15 Alden, Jun 20, 2025
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    I just got the Volvo mechanisms in yesterday, I'll see how they line up, take some photos and post them for future reference. Although I'm not sure how much good it will do since I don't have the original window mechanisms in my car. Hopefully someone can reference the images I posted of the Fiat number on the assembly frame and the motor information to find out what they are. It looks like someone welded a brace onto the motor to put it in the right position when it was replaced years ago.
    I'm also going to tear into my left side rear window motor since I'm not so intimidated by the process now and that one is "clicking" about 2/3 of the way down, it still works, but I don't think I'm going to wait until it fails to investigate and fix it, I'll let you all know.
    It'll be interesting to see if the left side mechanism was replaced at the same time the right one was sometime after the 2010 date in the motor, just for reference, I bought my car in 2015.
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    Pretty sure the FIAT frame piece is original to the car.
     
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    So, the right side actuator, window and everything is in and working fantastic, I'll post lots of pictures and more information later. Had to have a friend come over and help me with the reinstall cuz you need two pairs of hands, little tiny hands too! LOL.
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    I'll post more stuff later, but I didn't want to forget to mention that I was lucky because my window was stuck in the up position, if it had been in the down position it would have been nearly impossible. Also, you can't reinstall it with the window locked in place front and back. You have to release the rear locking tab so that you can pivot the whole assembly to fit it down in there and then reach through the strake opening to lock the rear window tab in place.
    Anyway, if your windows are acting up, don't wait until they're stuck in the down position to try to repair them. Also you can get the top down with the window up. You just have to unbolt the arms and manipulate the b pillar so that it can get around the window. That's one of the things you have to do if the window is locked in the up position. I don't think it's possible to do this repair with the top up. More info later.
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    I think the problem with the Volvo mechanisms is how and where do you mount the motor? I suppose you could do it the way mine was retrofitted by welding a bar from the motor to the window track.
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    Came across this on ebay this morning. Those sure look like rear window regulators. Price isn't exactly thrifty, but wonder how they work when rebuilt. I may contact them for info.
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    Nice find! The labels in the pic say front window regulators but I'm sure they can repair the rear ones since they're very similar, let us know what you find out! This would be a great resource for the community if they can do it, we might be able to get some kind of a discount for Ferrari chat members.
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    I also found this in the listing about the necessity of motor rebuilds, I gave them a call, we can both report on what they say about their services.
    Considering OEM units from Ferrari were $1,800 when they were available. (And I think they came with the glass as well) This may be a bargain. Someone out there is sitting on at least one of them, I know from a previous thread.
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