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2000 360 O2 sensors heater circuit

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  1. sevak89

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    I have a 2000 360 I'm trying to get the monitors to set for smog check in California, everything is set except the O2 and O2 heater. The O2 heater should set at cold start leaving it idle for 5+ min. I have 4 new o2 sensors and it's still not setting. I've checked the fuses are ok. Anyone with wiring diagram can you see where the O2 heater circuit goes?
     
  2. Qavion

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    #2 Qavion, Jun 21, 2025
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    Both banks?

    The L/R bank heater circuits have nothing in common. The fuses are powered by their respective Motronic Master relays. If a relay failed for a particular bank, however, the banks wouldn't work. If it's a single bank, it may be a wiring issue downstream of the fuse.

    Did you check power on the fuse or just inspect it visually?
     
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    The fuse powers the heat for both sensors (splice involved). Power goes into the forward sensor on pin 3 of the precat sensor and pin 1 of the postcat sensor (12 volts).


    My diagrams are not for the faint of heart. If you can give me more information, I can point you in the right direction on the diagrams.


    Basically, control for the heat comes from the ECU (one wire for the precat, one wire for the post-cat). e.g.

    Pin 50 on the inboard connector of the RH Motronic ECU (assuming you have a Coupe and not a Spider) is attached to pin 4 of the precat/upstream sensor and controls the application of heat. Brown/white wire.
    Pin 34 on the inboard connector of the RH Motronic ECU is attached to pin 2 of the post-cat/downstream sensor and controls the application of heat. Brown/black wire.

    The 12 volt power wire on the RH bank precat and postcat sensors is violet.
     
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    P.S. Sorry, lots of edits in my last message.
     
  5. sevak89

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    It's a spider.
     
  6. sevak89

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    I check the fuse with volt meter for continuity. Fuse is good.
     
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    If I check the sensor heat wire during start up and I get no voltage it would be safe to assume the ECU is not activating it for whatever reason?
     
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    A power reading is more reliable. At least that way I know the wire between the relay and the fuse is ok.

    If you check for voltage at the sensor connector, that can be done with just the key on. If you have voltage there, then it's either:

    1) an O2 sensor issue
    2) an ECU to sensor wiring issue
    3) an ECU issue


    So the RH ECU plug will be the lower one. It will be the upper plug on the LH ECU.

    Did you isolate the issue to a specific bank?
     
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    All four o2 sensors are new oem Bosch.
     
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    Is there a relay for the heating circuit?
     
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    No specific relays, just the L/R Master Motronic relays. Do both banks run?


    Plug pinout... Numbers are left to right, top to bottom, with the face of the harness connector in this orientation.
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    Maybe someone can chime in here... Are there any special requirements other than getting the engine warm for smog tests? Thanks!
     
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    What part #'s for your 4 sensors? I presume you know there's a difference between the upstream and downstream ones.

    Doesn't hurt to check the resistance levels on the sensors (for the heater circuit) - typically the two same color wires are the heater circuit.

    Did you try resetting the ECU already?

    The issue you're trying to resolve currently is the car not going into I/M readiness mode or something else?

    Ray
     
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    17001 16916 2 of each. Tried multiple batteries resets. Tried multiple drive cycles fallowing the Ferrari SIB. Issue I'm trying to solve is both 02 and 02 heater monitors are not setting. The rest are set including the cat.
     
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    What scanner do you have over there?

    Sometimes that stuff can take a while to settle down. We just replaced the O2 sensors on my neighbor's 4Runner and it took forever to get into ready state. Even when doing the drive cycle cheat sheet stuff, sometimes the only answer is just drive for a few weeks.

    Ray
     
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    I'm using a generic scanner that shows monitor readiness. I've ordered an autel to see if I can see more info.
     
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    Let me know what you think of the Autel. Which Autel did you go with? I just upgraded mine from a $20 Amazon one to the XTOOL A30M (as outlined here in this thread):

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/obd2-bluetooth-adapter-question-obdlink-mx-vs-xtool-a30m.707168/

    I'm gonna scan my neighbor's 360 soon using it (the same neighbor w/ the 4Runner mentioned above there).

    From the information on the thread above, I gather the XTOOL doesn't have as much support for Ferrari as the Autel's do; would be curious to hear your experiences over there when your Autel arrives.

    Ray
     
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    I used the xtool 30m it doesn't support the early Ferrari 360 all that well. Basic codes can't go into the modules or anything like that, maybe it's different for the later 360 mine is an early car.
     
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    Yea XTOOL doesn't appear to have updated their Ferrari module lately.

    The 360 my friend has is a 2002 I believe. Not holding my breath.

    Ray
     
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    Yeah the versions for other manufacturers showed v11-12 Ferrari is at version v6 in xtool hopefully they get that updated soon and we can have more functionality.
     
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    Yeah that's what I saw as well. I wrote XTOOL and asked them about it and if they had any plans to update the Ferrari support.... crickets.

    Ray
     
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    Flash32 in da house!

    :)

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    I was just searching around the Autel website.. it's interesting that the AP200 shows plenty of Ferrari support (and there are slight variations of the AP200 - e.g. AP200C, AP200H, AP200M) while the later version (the AP2500) seems to lack it.

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