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Potential 512BB/BBi owner in a few weeks

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  1. Impaw

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    Hello all
    First post here.
    I have been drooling over BB’s for many years, but the last few months it’s getting more and more difficult to think about any other car
    So on Monday I will visit a dealer in the Netherlands and have a look at a BBi.
    It’s a little bit out of my price range, but hopefully there’s some wiggle room on the price.
    I live in Norway, so a car bought in the EU will cost me an additional 25% when I import it, so I must put on a poker face and play cool when negotiating

    Anyways I will spend the evening reading the BB buyers guide-thread, and I will report back here when I have seen the car on Monday.

    hoping to be a part of the club in some weeks time!

    regards
    Torstein
     
  2. pshoejberg

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    Good plan Torstein. Do your due diligence and you won’t be disappointed. I don’t think there are many bb’s being driven in Norway so it’s about time to spice up those narrow mountain roads. Good luck negotiating the car buy.

    best, Peter
     
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  3. Impaw

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    thank you Peter!
    I think there are just three or four here , but don’t quote me on that:)
     
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  4. turbo-joe

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    torstein, I have read something that vehicles older than 20 years have less duty to pay when importing to norway, but not know if this is right or not?
    I read this in a forum, so nothing official
     
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  5. Impaw

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    Hi!
    Yes, this is true.
    Older cars are exempt from (almost) all fees, but you still have to pay 25%VAT, unfortunately
     
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  6. 2dinos

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    The Boxer is truly a great car. Just beautiful, and the fastest thing even standing still!

    I hope your deal works out.:)
     
  7. Impaw

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    Yes, it is a car that really looks fast, even when parked!:)
    Thank you!
    Fingers crossed!
    The plan is to make no decision or offer on the spot, but get on my flight back to Norway and have a good long think about it.
    …best laid plans etc
     
  8. turbo-joe

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    those 25 % to this what you payed for the car? or to the new price? or is there an estimated value price?
     
  9. Impaw

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    I will need to pay 25% of the buying price plus transportation costs, to the Norwegian customs when/if I import the car
     
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  10. 2dinos

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    You have to pay 25% VAT on shipping too? Hopefully the logistics aren’t too bad.

    Maybe you could pick up the car and drive it to northern Denmark for shipping to Norway, then possibly drive the rest of the way home, if the car’s in good shape. Could be a fun way to reduce both shipping and VAT costs. Or stressful if car is not checked out.

    Does it need any basic service—belts, hoses, etc.—before taking on the trip? And totally right about 'best laid plans'

    GLWP!
     
  11. Impaw

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    Yes, I have thought about the same thing:
    Drive it to Denmark, then up through Sweden and home to Norway:)
    The car is said to be in good shape with cam belt changed 3000km ago - I will check in the papers how long it’s been since the change.
    5 years is the limit, right?
    The car has only had two owners, both in Europe, sold new in Italy.

    The interior looks very good, beige leather, the red exterior good also.
    …although the lower portion of the car is painted black, like earlier cars.
    Could this have been done originally, on a 1984 BBi?
    Or were they all in single body colour, no black from waist down?
     
  12. turbo-joe

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    3000 km with the belts - that is nothing. and if the belts are dry ( so not oily and not wet by coolant, then with so little km I would say 8 years - but not guarantee. only my meaning and experience. on my BB the belts are now 7 years but only 3000 km and when I had a look with an endoscope they still look brand new and the single teeth are not even minimally porous.

    before you will do this long journey I would drive the car around where you buy it for 2 or 3 days and minimum 500 km to see if all is ok.
     
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  13. Impaw

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    thank you for your reply:)
     
  14. pshoejberg

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    Romano's suggestion is wise. I bought my 69 Dino in southern Norway at winter time some 13 years ago. The car was registred in Norway and had recently past inspection. I took the ferry to Hirtshals and drove the car 500 km across the the country in snowing condition to Copenhagen. Parked it in my driveway with the family welcoming me and my new investment. 20 seconds after arrival the whole cooling system blew up. Very entertaining (kids laughing big time, wife looking worried) but it was pure luck that I manage to reach my home.

    Best, Peter
     
  15. Impaw

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    Peter,
    Was the Dino yellow?
     
  16. 2dinos

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    I had a pretty similar experience: My first drive after purchase was very short, but it started to snow hard enroute to transport. Also, for me, although it wasn't the whole cooling system after arrival home- just 1 hose started to leak but couldn't even see it. It dripped on exhaust making the whole event more dramatic. The family view was not-thrilled. Just part of the experience, I guess. How we love them so!

    imho - so worth it. Those days were kind of 'stress-soup', but they're really very good cars. I'd call them a masterpiece. But like any 40+ year old supercar, there's some learning involved.

    Hope this works out, and you have your own fun stories.
     
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  17. JohnMH

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    In 2011 I was in the same position, I drove a few cars, carb and injected in North America and Europe before I bought one. It looked and drove great but still needed a ton of work.

    My advice is wait for a carb car. When set up we’ll it is more interesting to use. I love my 78.
     
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  18. Impaw

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    Thank you for your insight
    I will test as many cars as possible before deciding
     
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  19. turbo-joe

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    and I love my BB 77
    you may ask samsaprunoff how good his BB now with my former carbs is running. I would not take a BBi, too much trouble when you not use it often with the bad fuel today. same problem you have with the carbs, but those you can clean easier
     
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  20. turbo-joe

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    have a safe trip tomorrow :)
     
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  22. Impaw

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    Thank you very much:)
     
  23. 2dinos

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    My Dino was a little rougher.:rolleyes: Also, part of the experience.
     
  24. Impaw

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    Yesterday I had a great time inspecting and test driving a 1984 BBi.
    I loved the car!
    But, I will try to test at least three or four more candidates, to get a better feel for the models.
    So, next up will be test driving two BB´s in early august.
    This is fun :D!
     
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  25. 2dinos

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    Carbs Vs injection ?

    Can we please go back to timing belt discussions.
     
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