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  1. Lumpy Ness

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    Hello,

    I am working on getting a Ferrari registered in the US. It looks like it was brought in without jumping through all the required hoops and I need to fix it. I inherited the car and don't have access to all the paperwork. Could anyone send me a copy of a letter from Ferrari (with your personal and car details blacked out, of course) stating that their car complies with US safety guidelines (FMVSS I think?). I would like to sell the car and I'm working on finding someone who can help me with the process. I would like to not involve the local dealer, apparently the person who died had a bit of a rough relationship with them. They were also a bit of a celebrity, so I'd like to keep it as quiet as possible out of respect to the rest of the family.

    I understand an independent shop can do the necessary inspection, but I want to be sure I ask them to do the right things.

    Thanks very much for any assistance that can be offered. Please feel free to PM if more information would help. Apologies if any of the above is incorrect, I am not an expert in this area.

    Sincerely,

    Lorval
     
  2. greyboxer

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    You could start by telling us which model and year and origin as that will affect the process
     
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  3. Lumpy Ness

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    Thank you for the suggestion. The car is a Ferrari FF. 2012 model year, though I believe this one was manufactured in 2011. We think it was originally sold in Canada. As far as we can tell, it does comply with all the required standards for US importation.

    Much appreciated.
     
  4. technom3

    technom3 F1 World Champ
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    It needs to have an fmvss sticker and EPA stickerif the 8th digit of the vin is an A you should be fine.

    If you need a letter of compliance... Which you do you need to contact Ferrari and they will provide one.

    Posting one without the personal info allows people to Photoshop their own vin in and erroneously import cars and potentially victimize owners for decades.

    The right way is to contact Ferrari if North America and ask for the letter of compliance. That is about all you should need.

    The import tarrif is going to be HUGE.
     
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  5. Lumpy Ness

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    Ah, right. Thank you. I always assumed with the VIN you could get the history.

    I spoke to Ferrari of North America. I was a bit surprised, but the we're not helpful and seemed a bit put off by having to speak to me directly. They told me they would not provide one unless I worked with a dealer. I believe an independent may be my only hope. If anyone would be willing to send me one directly, or if there is another way to understand what needs to be in it, that would be great. Even just retyped text in a PM without the letterhead or anything would help.

    Thank you all for your kind assistance.
     
  6. technom3

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    Does your car have the EPA and FMVSS stickers?

    Post your vin.
     
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  7. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    I ran into same issue when contacting FNA about getting a letter on an Fcar outside the US under 25 years of age. They punted me to my dealer who weren't interested in helping so I gave up and moved to a different brand of cars to own.
     
  8. Lumpy Ness

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    Thank you. It does have the EPA sticker. Instead of the FMVSS sticker, it has the Canadian version below. The VIN does match the one on the car.

    I think if I could replace this with the identical US version, it might work. Again, any suggestions would be gratefully received.

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  9. Lumpy Ness

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    The 8th digit is the letter "A". Can I please ask the significance of that? Thank you very much.
     
  10. Lumpy Ness

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    It is surprising to me, as I understand these are very expensive items. Perhaps the idea of customer service is different in Italian culture. Though I have had several Italian tailors who were very gracious in spite of being extremely talented and having a wait list for customers. I suppose automobile manufacturing might be a bit of a rougher trade, though I have no expertise whatsoever.
     
  11. Steve Magnusson

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    #11 Steve Magnusson, Jul 12, 2025 at 8:53 PM
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    Because it indicates the intended market for the car -- VIN eighth digit "A" is "Left-Hand Drive, North America" (and something else might be more difficult). May I please ask why don't you just sell it as-is (or in Canada)? Seems you'll just be doing a lot of hassle for someone else (for something you inherited and don't want to keep) - JMO.
     
  12. Lumpy Ness

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    Thank you for the follow up. And excellent questions.

    it would be very difficult to get it into Canada as well. Their customs would likely want the same forms. Plus there are duties, transport costs, currency exchange costs and, as of this week, 35% additional tariffs. That is quite a haircut to take.

    As to why I am jumping through these hoops, in the US, the executor of an estate has a duty to try to maximize the value to the beneficiaries. I knew I was taking on that requirement when I agreed to be named as such in the will. And only a small percentage of the proceeds will be mine. There are aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, nieces, attorneys, etc. I am not complaining. I would honestly do this even if it wasn’t the legal requirement (they are lovely nieces). We are very fortunate that our relative was kind enough to share his good fortune and hard work with us all. But it is a lot of work to sort it all out and I am trying to do the best job I can.

    I will keep working on this. Thanks to all who have posted and messaged me. Have a nice weekend.
     
  13. Steve Magnusson

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    Oh, so when you wrote "I inherited the car" that isn't true, and you are actually the executor of an estate? My caveat emptor radar just went off...;) (Seems very odd that you would spend estate funds to "improve" an estate asset in the hopes of getting more for it -- would be like spending estate funds to remodel a house before selling it. But good luck with whatever shenanigans you pursue.)
     
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  14. technom3

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    I literally always got them for free from Ferrari of North America when I was importing cars from Dubai.

    Something isn't adding up.

    You want people to post the letter so you can Photoshop your info into it.

    I'm getting this from you not wanting to post your vin.

    Not even having the slightest understanding of the significance of the a in the vin when a very simple Google or AI search would decipher this.

    You haven't answered if you have the dot and fmvss stickers.

    Ar the end of the day if you don't have those stickers and you have a letter of compliance you are likely dead in the water.

    Post pics of the car and sticker

    What country is the car in if it is not in Canada and not in the US?

    I apologize for being curt but it smells fishy. Perhaps I'm over reacting in which case I apologize in advance
     
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  15. Lumpy Ness

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    Apologies if anything I posted seemed evasive. I am nothing like knowledgeable about these types of cars. I don't even own a car, I live in New York City.

    I am one of the beneficiaries of the estate. I am also the executor. I am responsible for disposing of the items that aren't specifically bequeathed to anyone. That includes this car. I will receive a share of the proceeds.

    I was not planning on spending any significant estate funds to facilitate the sale. I assumed that getting the necessary paperwork would not be a huge expense. Perhaps a few hundred dollars for an inspection and some administrative fees. It's a small fraction of what we are spending for inspections and repairs on the benefactors' house to prepare it for sale.

    I'm sorry if not posting the VIN makes this impossible. There is a desire for privacy in this situation, and I don't know what the VIN would enable someone to learn. When I put it into google it does seem to lead to a lot of information.

    The car has a number of stickers. I apologize for not posting them, I did not realize they were important to the question. Please find them below. If I inadvertently posted something that would enable someone to identify the car's owner, I would appreciate it if someone could message me so I can remove it. I believe the first sticker is the emissions sticker that was asked about. The car does not have a DOT sticker (if I'm correct that refers to the United States Department of Transportation). I do not know why it has a reference to the US EPA in the first sticker, rather than the Canadian agency, but refers to the Canadian Motor Vehicles Safety Regulations in the picture I posted yesterday. That seems very odd to me, but there may be an explanation I am not aware of.

    I'm sorry if this question is unusual or suspicious. To be clear, I don't necessarily need a copy of the letter, I am just looking to understand what the contents need to be. Perhaps I can find a similar letter from another manufacturer and work from there. I don't know if there is something particular about this car that leads people to do unsavoury things. I do realize a Ferrari is not an ordinary car, but that is the extent of my knowledge. Thank you again for your help and apologies if my discretion made this more difficult than it should be.

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    Why not just work with a different dealer?
     
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    You included a photograph of a sticker that says manufactured in 2022, but you said the car is a Ferrari FF manufactured in 2011 and sold as a 2012 model year.
     
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  19. Lumpy Ness

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    Thank you for the references, I will contact them.

    Sorry, I downloaded a recent sticker to try to ascertain if there had been changes. The correct one is below.

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  20. lagunacc

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    If you don't have the paperwork how can you ascertain that.
     
  21. JoeCab

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    Why not just have the car serviced at your local dealer, and then ask them to facilitate the request for the compliance letter? This may gloss over any previous bad history between the car owner and dealership. And - recent service history would surely be a bonus at the time of sale, unless you are just planning on wholesaling the car?

    The issue is that even small administrative tasks like this take someone's time. And nobody wants to give that away for free these days.
     
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  22. technom3

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    So basically it was a Canadian person who drove the car into America and it stayed past its legally allowed 6 years.

    The person died and now you are trying to register it and sell the vehicle on behalf of the estate?

    Is that a pretty good guess?

    If so the penalties and import duties are going to be pretty outrageous. They may value the car from when it was logged when it crossed the border. IF so... That car may have been worth 200k or so and your current tarrifs and whatnot is going to land you all said and don't between 70-100k. You may also need to change the cluster on the car as well.

    Canadian cars are worth less in the US.

    If what I am guessing is accurate... Your best bet is to sell to a Canadian dealership and wash your hands of it.

    Otherwise you will need to contact a registered importer also known as an RCI to import the car.


    Calling TFX transport would also be a very good move to see if they can help you.

    I do not think you will be able to cross this bridge anymore by yourself. You will need to use a registered importer and the estate is really going to have to write a large check for the car.
     

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