Ferrari F80

can you explain what are the problems with driving on public roads?

 

Noise, reliability and overall comfort is through the floor. The reliability in particular turns it into an anxiety machine, where your best insurance is to have the local flatbed company on speed dial.

 

Looks a bit goofy in that particular picture, you know that

Overall looks good, purposeful with all that void space under the bodywork. I love that. It truly has a BIG diffuser, unlike F80.

 

You got me... I did pic the goofiest picture I could find

 

With only 275 units made I am actually surprised how many Valkyrie's are for sale. Also looks like they are mostly at sticker if you include options?

 

These are Venturi tunnels. not a difusser. The F80s's diffuser is massive (1.2m long).

 

Originally, it was the insanely expensive maintenance program although Aston has since changed it.

 

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I've always liked Shmee. He is one of the very first pioneers in the online auto media space. His longevity is crazy. I watch others for better driving insight.

 

I suspect it's a car that won't be as appreciated in its time as it should be, long term value could be absolutely nuts though

 

Usable watchword at Ferrari. But to extreme concept in some other brands.

 

Can't we call the rearmost part of the underbody ground effect device/system a diffuser? Also volume more than length alone should be considered, I believe.
Anyway I was not trying to say Valkyrie has more downforce or better engineered aero than F80, I was just focusing on the visual impact of the rear, where I find the AM impressive vs a more conventional approach for the Ferrari.

 

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Its engineering not reality TV, you cant just call something it is not. A diffuser is a diffuser, venturi tunnels are ventur tunnels.

I am convinced the finished Valkyrie is not what Adrian Newey originally envisioned. It is just compromised in so many ways, perhaps too many ways.

 

Exactly! It is clear that if we are honest, if it were Ferrari that had built the Valkyrie, everyone would have celebrated and the waiting list would be as long as a Paris-New York !

 

maybe SP5 will be like Valkyrie/T50

 

Icona series cars are based on existing Ferrari platforms.

 

Ferrari never breaks the rules?

 

Will be interesting to see what the XX track only version of the F80 will be like, should be a Ferrari take on what the Valkyrie is.

 

the f80 is the valk / amg one / w1 competitor- not the xx version

the Amr pro version or lm version of the valk would be though

 

it is hard to make this track only cars road legal? or everything depends on registration country?

 

Well, it is not meant to be a rule but a function of production sensibility. Iconas are not new developments, rather a re-imagination of past models with mechanicals that already exist and have amortised their costs. Developing a totally new car, like a Valkyrie, would be tantamount to developing another hypercar and we all know that these come once every 10 years whilst the F80 has just been launched. Iconas are not about maximum performance and huge development costs. They are cars for romantics, based on existing models.

 

Agreed, even thought the Valkyrie LM is the analogue of the 499P Modificata.

 

It is too difficult for me to get used to it. From the design point of view.

 

Agreed on everything, except that...because since the whole world dreams of an SP3( more than F80), it would make way too many romantic people...I would simply say that they embody the true DNA of Ferrari.

 

Yes to both. It's difficult and it very much depends on the registration country. Lanzante have been working on a Zonda Revolución for at least 3 years now, and last I heard was that it still isn't ready for road use.