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296 Qualifying mode vs performance mode

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  1. fadlouni

    fadlouni Rookie

    Dec 4, 2020
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    Fadi Adlouni
    Although manual and reading online it says qualifying mode gives full performance from electrical and ICE output. But for some reason when i drive in performance mode, the car feels faster on the road, the sound in the cabin also feels louder.

    Looking at the elecric boost/charging indicator below engine rev dashboard, i see that in performance mode, the boost blue indicator immediately goes up when stepping on the gas, unlike in qualifying mode. Does that explain maybe why in performance mode the acceleration at the low end of engine RPM from low speed/standstill feels quicker?

    Does that mean unless you are at the high rev end of the engine (which is typical on a track vs spirited driving on the road) ,performance mode will make the car accelerate faster than qualifying mode?

    Anyone has done something like measure a 0-60 in qualifying vs performance?

    Thanks,
    Fadi.
     
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  2. AliPaPa

    AliPaPa Karting

    Aug 16, 2011
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    From my experience on track, you are correct. Qualify mode only boost when you have more throttle input, and the engine rev pass 3k. Performance mode boost stops at 5k rpm i guess.Normal street driving performance mode feel faster for sure. However, qualify mode does charge up the battery whenever possible. At least the battery is always full for me laps after laps
     
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  3. fadlouni

    fadlouni Rookie

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    I’ve been driving Qualifying mode the whole time since i got the car as advised by the Ferrari rep to keep the battery full all the time. But i was always wondering the performance mode is there for a reason and i couldn’t understand it in details from the book. So i was experimenting with it, and noticed a big difference in driving experience in normal road usage where most of the time you’re accelrating from low speeds/trafic stops/traffic lights and i noticed much more responsiveness from performance mode.

    I’m thinking to experiment with trying performance mode more during normal street driving and then qualifying on the way home to charge the battery.
     
  4. Jo Sta7

    Jo Sta7 F1 Veteran

    Oct 13, 2015
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    But doesn’t qualify give the full HP and performance mode cuts you 50 short ?
     
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  5. Saile

    Saile Rookie

    Jan 17, 2022
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    For reference, when we tracked the car during Corsa Pilota, the instructor would have us put the car in Qualifying mode.
     
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  6. rxbg

    rxbg Formula Junior

    Apr 11, 2010
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    only thing of value here for me is that the car is louder. i've only driven it in qualifying. but ill do performance if it makes it louder. tell me i am not an idiot and have overlooked any louder exhaust setting on this car? there aren't any are there? my R8 had a sports exhaust activation button but i am not aware of any such thing on this car.
     
  7. DragonRR

    DragonRR Karting

    Sep 2, 2021
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    From the manual:
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    Performance:
    In this mode, the vehicle is hybrid-only with the internal combustion engine kept running at all times and the potential of the electric system limited in terms of maximum performance. This mode gives consistent, balanced performance with controlled use of power so that the vehicle an also be used on the track.

    Qualify:
    This mode is used to obtain maximum performance. It is hybrid-only like the previous one, but the electric system is used at maximum power. For this reason, the high voltage battery discharges more than it charges, The ICE is kept running at all times and uses the power of the electric motor.

    P: this activates the Performance mode which gives priority to battery charging so that power is available if the driver suddenly requests it; in this mode, the ICE is kept running at all times.

    Q: this activates the Qualifying mode which guarantees maximum performance and the ICE and electric motor work together at full power.

    Performance
    In “Performance” mode, the internal combustion engine remains on with limited electric power to control battery consumption and guarantee that the battery charge level (SOC) is kept at maximum efficiency with a constant level of performance.

    Qualifying
    This mode is used to achieve maximum system power output by allowing the electric motor to work at it's maximum potential. In “Performance" mode, the control logic gives priority to delivering maximum power rather than saving the battery charge.

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    Qualify mode should provide maximum power when required. I generally drive in this mode, I tried performance at first but it seemed to provide less power and this ties in with the manual, Performance mode also dumps around 50% of the available battery power. I haven't noticed the exhaust noise level is any different in performance.
     
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  8. 008

    008 Formula Junior

    Jun 6, 2006
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    This has been my experience as well.
     
  9. MT1967

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    Ferrari's statement makes sense, but whatever mode you like the most. I always use a combination of qualifying and race modes. I haven't tried the CT-Off or ESC-Off and am not planning on doing so.... Well, yet.
     
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  10. AliPaPa

    AliPaPa Karting

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    Qualify sounds louder to me as well.
     
  11. mkraft3003

    mkraft3003 Formula 3
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    Placebo affect. There is no difference in exhaust sound. There is no valve or damper that changes the exhaust on the car.
     
  12. rxbg

    rxbg Formula Junior

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    i cant believe they didn't put one in.
     
  13. DragonRR

    DragonRR Karting

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    Ditto, qualify plus race and manual. In auto the car feels a little lazy unless you drive it hard which is just not possible on normal roads.
     
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  14. MT1967

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    Agree 100%. I forgot to mention. I never use automatic.
     
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  15. bamaman

    bamaman Formula Junior

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    Auto mode is ridiculous--7th gear at 45 mph or something like that.
     
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  16. MT1967

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    I like revving on 1st gear. Just when I feel that I need to switch to second gear, I am still around 5000 rpm and 3-4000 more to go. It's just amazing. Same with other gears. And what's the purpose of having a steering with LEDs if you use the automatic?
     
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  17. DragonRR

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    For reasons I've never really fully understood but I know I'm not alone.. in a manual/stick shift car I change up and down without thinking at all. I get in a paddle shift and I sometimes forget I should be shifting. Because of this, in the past I've leaned towards having a car in sport-auto but manually shifting when I wanted to do some more spirited driving. This used to work well for me but in the last few years the latest cars take over shifting themselves too quickly and are far less aggressive in auto anyway unless you are really on it. I guess this is probably emmission/economy related. Anyway.. I've had to retrain myself to be more dilligent with shifting with paddles and I'm better but there is still that odd time where I bouncing on the red limiter after driving some distance in the same gear.
     
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  18. JPC296

    JPC296 Rookie

    Jul 27, 2023
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    One advantage in driving (with spirit) in automatic mode is that although it takes you to too high a gear, it is really good at down-shifting through lots of gears under hard braking - and that sounds good. Well at least that is my experience...
     
  19. cmevo3

    cmevo3 Karting
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    I drive primarily in Qualifying Mode. It keeps the battery charged at all times and I don’t feel the difference in performance between QM or Performance. I agree in PM the battery is used more at lower RPM but essentially once you hit like 9 miles of range it keeps the battery charged somewhat.

    The auto mode is useless except for when I first start driving as it keeps engine Revs at a moderate level until everything warms up.

    chet
     
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  20. rxbg

    rxbg Formula Junior

    Apr 11, 2010
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    i have no choice but to drive it in qualifying manual mode and in first or second like everywhere when running errands so i can actually hear the engine. i've gotten good at blipping the throttle to make it talk. i had to do that with my R8 until i got the soul exhaust on it so i could hear it.
     
  21. Jo Sta7

    Jo Sta7 F1 Veteran

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    I actually think it sounds great as the RPMs build. It’s quiet at the lower RPMs.
     
  22. SECRET

    SECRET Formula 3
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    Agreed! Qualifying mode definitely sounds better than Performance mode. I never really noticed the difference until a passenger mentioned all the turbo blow off sounds and turbo flutter went away when I was in Performance mode.
     
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  23. Puro

    Puro Formula Junior

    Sep 15, 2022
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    It may also depend on what mode the right selector is in. If the left bracket is in qualifying and the manettino is in normal, for example.
     
  24. Dbops618

    Dbops618 Formula Junior

    Feb 27, 2017
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    with the fiorano Package leaving the car in race mode really makes all road bumps amplified….. Where else if you go to wet mode and eliminates all of that at least that’s what happened to me. The first time I drove the car
     
  25. DragonRR

    DragonRR Karting

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    Well.. funny you should say that.

    Some time later I lost the back end in race mode and caught a kerb. Small amount of graze damage to a wheel but since then.. well... I don't drive in race mode! :)
     

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