Shifting from 1st to 3rd after cold start

I’ve heard that it’s a good practice when you begin your first drive of the day (Testarossa) to shift from 1st to 3rd as 2nd gear does not receive proper lubrication initially. How long should you drive before shifting into 2nd?

when I pull out of my driveway the road is level for about a quarter mile until I reach a stop sign. When I turn on the main road there is an immediate uphill incline so it’s a little bit of struggle going from 1st to 3rd while also keeping the rpms low on the cold engine. Is a quarter mile drive sufficient to coat the gear? I should note that, unlike a lot of cars, my car shifts into 2nd gear effortlessly even stone cold.

 

Answered your own question. Just drive.

 

My car simply cannot be shifted to 2nd until it's warm, on a summer day that's about a mile and longer in the spring/fall. As noted, if yours shifts fine then no need to avoid it

 

same as my car.

if the gearbox inside is adjusted right and of course outside from the shifter to the gearbox then you not have problems shifting when cold from 1st into 2nd. before I rebuilt my gearbox I also had this problem, but after rebuilding it is all ok

 

It certainly is not from a lack of lubrication. Many of the gears are sitting in a pool of oil before even being started and as soon as you start it the interior of the gearbox looks like a blender with everything drenched in oil in the first second. Another wives tale. Both prior posts pretty well cover it. My only addition would be if you have an issue shifting to second when cold you really should consider different oil. It does not need to be that way.

 

I always let the car wrm for5- 10 mins or so before pulling away. I like to see some temp on the oil needle before moving. By then the gearbox has some heat also which means this should not be an issue. In addition double declutch out of habbit esp while going slow(lack the coordinatoin at speed).

Best thing to do in genral is warm up the car before going on the move(helps gearbox too), then work the speed up.

 

I never had any shifting problems but one day Patrick Ottis mentioned it to me about being good to your gearbox, so I adopted the habit as good form.

From then on I did not leave my parking spot until the water temperature came alive, and did not shift 1st to 2nd until the oil temperature came alive.

It costs nothing and can't hurt.

 

so you always wait until the oil needle moves a little? but then you have to wait much more than only 5-10 minutes

 

My understanding is that idling for this long does more harm than good. Better to let the car warm under light driving conditions. Not to mention the cost of gas burned and exhaust filling your garage!

 

i sart the car and back it out the garage. Then I let it idle untill the oil temp rises off the peg. I have a BBI so smilar to a TR. I think there are 14 qts of oil in there. Do you know the damage of thick oil and revs. Ferrais have great oil pressure idlign does no harm. Running amtor esp and aluminum one before all the metal components have warmed and expanded is not a good plan.

Once I have the oil off the peg then I start rolling slowly working up the speed, when there is some good oil temp, well my car then lives in the pwerband between 4-6500k rpm with some moments above.

I always let my fast cars, boast etc warm up properly, Ive also done proper engine break ins(which is why used low mileage ferraris are such a potential time bomb).

I have one boat with a 1991 mercury 200 properly run in when new and always and warmed before hitting it, it still has great compression. My track car is approaching 12k miles all on track, equivalent to 120k road miles, dosent burn a drop of oil.

Always warm the engine(how much might be a debate) and then slwy work it up to speed over miles. All those different metals in there expand at different rates and full tilt requires everyhting(oil tranny internal metals) properly up to temp imo.

 

And you are suggesting not following your warm up procedure will result in less satisfactory results. Sorry, you are just wrong. Modern multigrade oils like 5-40 or 0-40 make such prolonged warm ups a waste of time. If what you say was true our road sides would be littered with dead cars.
If I had to wait for an oil temp indication on our TR before driving it on a cold day it would never leave the drive way. On cold days the oil temp needle never moves. Oh the horror.

 

I use 20/50 in the bbi
Not a big deal to get it off the peg before moving off.

modern cars are different

 

in the gearbox???

 

in the engine or motore invitation
I like tinker it warm up a bit before driving off and the. Use an I ceasing tempo to bring it fully up to temp.
When I drive the car it’s open roads and I’m not hanging about. I lien everything g up to temp before hitting it.

that’s 5 mins or so of warmup and the gently working the speed up for a few miles