California t rear mirror broken

I was trying to remove the sticky paint on the rear mirror and it just fell. I soon realized it was kept in its place just by a couple of plastic parts which were supposed to "snap" when reattaching it. One of these small parts is broken, and, as a result, there is no way to attach the mirror again. Please, tell me I'm wrong and there is an hocus pocus to fix it, that I am just not noticing. Otherwise... I have to tell you: Ferrari is just a lot of crap around a nice engine.

 

Wow... this is literally crazy. Everything, I mean. The ridicule plastic holding and the tag price. I always had the feeling that most of the magic of Ferraris was its expensiveness, now that I own it, I see this is sad truth.

 

You are right, but I was not talking about how expensive it is to keep an old car in perfect condition: I was saying that Ferrari does not make quality cars. They use cheap plastic, poorly engineered parts, and couplings etc. In Italy, we make fun of Fiat, but believe me: I never had a Fiat, not even the cheapest one, with a broken mirror. Back in the 90s, the Fiat Punto I used to drive was not reliable, but its interiors aged better than those of Ferraris, and nothing broke just because you pushed it.

 

Exactly! The Fiat Punto was a quantum leap compared with the Uno, just like Alfa 147 compared with the 145. And I kept my 147 for 7 years: the worst issues I experienced were: 1) A/C leak, 2) the immobilizer once in 7 years went crazy: I had to restart the engine, and everything was back to normal. Not bad for a car paid 23k Euros, compared with a 260k $ Ferrari California T, which has a key so poor that it makes the Display key from BMW look like sci-fi.

 

Look Spaghetti, my thought is just what I said: I think that Ferrari's reputation is the result of the high-price policy more than actual quality. It is more a status symbol than an actual masterpiece. You should compare it with other extra luxury brands, such as Rolls-Royce and Lamborghini. Have you ever driven a 2010 Rolls Royce? I did. A car with an MSRP not really far from my California, even if bigger, with a bigger and more powerful engine, and a lot more stuff, in large part hand-made. You cannot see stretched leather, cupholders, cheap like crap, that lose their chrome paint, mirrors falling in your hands just because you push them, or sticky buttons. And I am not even talking about reliability: only about quality. Why doesn't Ferrari attach leather with staples, if they know the glue is going to fade away over time? Why have they kept using soft-touch paint for decades, if they knew it would become sticky over the years? Look at the Cali T: if you compare it with California, you can see that it is somehow even cheaper: just look at the plastic part at the base of the windshield. It is not only painted with sticky soft-touch paint, but it is also poorly assembled, and, as a result, over the years, it won't stay in place. And you can see that the mindset is faulty: just look at the owner's manual, which says there is a manual-open latch for the fuel filler lid. In my car, there is not, and the same place described and shown in pictures is even in a different position. I don't know if the picture was taken from a Cali (not T), or a prototype, or what, but it's crazy. What about the roof signs on the plastic cover? Have you ever noticed that the roof closure, over time, leaves a noticeable sign on the plastic cover? And guess what? It's normal: the workshop manual even instructs how to reapply the paint protection to that part. In 2009, I owned a BMW 3 series with a retractable hard top. And guess what? No signs. Not even after 5 years. Its tag price was 42k Euros, which is not even a fourth of the Cali T's tag price.

Do I think American cars are of better quality? I think a 650 hp Camaro's MSRP was less than half of the Cali's. However, it puts out more power, more technology, including a keyless entry that even a 2005 Nissa Micra used to have, while, you should wait until the Portofino to get it from Ferrari, heads up display, infotainment system definitely better, a better sound system, and you can also have it with manual transmission (btw: why the does the most renewed sport car in the world does not even offer the manual transmission?). Just look at the Camaro's Nurburgring lap time, and compare it with Ferraris (not the Cali, which is not even listed).

Bottom line: if it is not about the status-symbol, crazy high tag-prices, and exotic charm, what does really lead you to the conclusion that a Ferrari is better than a BMW, a Chevrolet, or even a Giulia (which is half the price)? My opinion is that Ferrari is overpriced to keep it exclusive. The last models are just crazy overpriced, even if I wouldn't ever drive a videogame like those, where everything is in a display, and even the start "button" is touch. At least, the Cali still keeps part of the old-fashioned appeal of the brand. Now, you enter a Ferrari and it really feels like being in an Audi. What really makes a 1000hp Corvette less valuable than a Cali T, even if their tag price is the same (not to mention that with some options, which won't anyway make it even remotely close to the Corvette's tech, it will cost you at least 20% more)?

 

Very respectful. Sorry, I thought you were interested in other people's thoughts. My fault.

 

BMW's interior quality was even better 10 years ago. Cars quality increased until the early 20s; now it is decreasing. Just some excellent exceptions, like RR, Bentley, and a little more.

 

Well, you should keep in consideration that everybody has different interpretations of respect. I don't think I disrespected you, but if you show me how and why, I will be glad to apologize. On the other hand, your tone and words, replying to my thoughts, showed condescension: I just don't like to put my ego before, so I limited my answer to my thoughts. If you feel bad because of that, you should ask yourself why. Anyway, feeling the need to state you were not reading my answer was a deliberate provocation that was not needed. Even your first statement was condescending: "What do you expect, a design that updates itself at night while you sleep?". So, please, if you are not interested in sharing opinions, but feel the need to judge others, feel free to avoid me.

 

And, btw, just to stay on topic: apparently some people feel comfortable with a 250k $ car with a 3k $ mirror kept in place by a single, small, stupid, and cheap plastic clip. This was my concern and the reason I was asking for information, since it seems too crazy to be true.

 

I think you are a very frustrated person, that, apparently needs to feel better than others because of money. I don't even feel the need to show you are saying BS about me, since I am clearly a more confident person than you. A baby who feels bad just because another owner of his car's brand has complaints against that brand does not need to write, but to read and learn. Best wishes, my 12 yo friend.

 

Thank you for your support! Not to mention that the real issue here is not the part price (of which I was not even aware when I started this thread), but the fact that nobody should tolerate something like that as normal, not even in a 10k car. Or should one just be happy to bring the car to the dealer anytime he touches something the wrong way?