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De-constructing the 'Horner' Empire is underway. The O2 event was a clear sign no one was happy with Horner. Smaller staffing and other changes to Team, Powertrains Unit etc. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-power-play-how-austria-is-tightening-its-grip-on-the-f1-team/10746133/

RED BULL POWER PLAY: HOW AUSTRIA IS TIGHTENING ITS GRIP ON THE F1 TEAM
Red Bull’s Austrian headquarters is reasserting control over Formula 1 operations in Milton Keynes. Team principal Christian Horner’s departure is only the beginning of a broader restructuring of power within the organisation
Christian Nimmervoll
Edited: Jul 28, 2025, 12:33 PM

It’s well known that an often-brutal power struggle has been in raging behind the scenes at Red Bull for the past 18 months. But who was it who finally won out and pulled the plug on Christian Horner?

Step forward Oliver Mintzlaff, one of the company’s three CEOs appointed as part of the succession plan put in place by the late Red Bull magnate Dietrich Mateschitz. It was Mintzlaff who was observed openly seething at being placed in the spotlight alongside Horner and his wife Geri at the F1 75 launch in London’s O2 Arena earlier this year, picked out on the big screens as host Jack Whitehall kept up a torrent of ‘edgy’ humour.

Speaking to Sky Germany at the Belgian Grand Prix, Red Bull advisor Helmut Marko was unequivocal: "The decision was made by the management, namely Oliver Mintzlaff."
Despite Horner's undeniable success over 20 years, Marko said the end of his era was ultimately inevitable: "Various factors played a role. But above all, the performance wasn’t quite what we had envisioned."

So-called 'Team Verstappen' – consisting of Max’s father Jos Verstappen and manager Raymond Vermeulen – seems, according to paddock whispers, to have found renewed peace of mind since Horner’s ousting. The media narrative has shifted as well: where Verstappen was once widely linked to Mercedes, it’s now believed he’ll remain with Red Bull at least for 2026.

However, Marko was quick to reject the idea that Horner was kicked into the long grass to appease Verstappen’s entourage: "There is no Verstappen faction, no Austrian or Thai faction. The entire company operates in harmony. Otherwise, the kind of success we’ve had – both commercially and on track – wouldn’t be possible."
Despite this claim it’s apparent that Red Bull GmbH, headquartered in Fuschl am See, near Salzburg in Austria, intends to take a firmer hand in managing the F1 operation in Milton Keynes. Once regarded as Horner’s territory, the factory is now being re-evaluated by Austrian leadership, who believe the same results could have been achieved with leaner staffing.

"We are reviewing everything to achieve maximum efficiency" was Marko’s coded response to ORF when reporter Ernst Hausleitner raised the subject of what paddock insiders describe as "unchecked growth" in recent years.

"And of course, the scope of Horner’s responsibilities was... or rather, he controlled everything and was involved in every detail. Naturally, that created areas where performance suffered. That’s why the focus now is on having a trained engineer in this position, with a strong emphasis on the race team."

That trained engineer is Laurent Mekies, previously team principal at the Racing Bulls in Faenza. While Mekies, like Horner before him, officially holds overall responsibility, Marko says the long-term plan is to divide Horner’s former duties among several people. As Mekies himself put it upon assuming office: "The aim is to avoid bottlenecks."

During this transitional phase, said Marko, Austria is becoming more actively involved in Red Bull Racing's day-to-day operations: "The focus has to be on the race team. Of course, there are departments like marketing and communications, and Salzburg has enormous expertise in those areas. Until suitable department heads are appointed, Salzburg will provide support."

Mekies’ background in engineering is seen as a clear asset, according to Marko: "Other teams have already demonstrated the benefits of this approach. We saw that he did excellent work at Racing Bulls. The team made technical and presentational strides forward."

Marko underscores the importance of narrowing the team principal's scope of duties: "The Milton Keynes organisation has 2,000 employees. Mekies will focus primarily on technical matters and the race team. Marketing, the RB17 project, and Powertrains will each be handled by their own dedicated leaders, freeing Mekies to concentrate fully on achieving racing success."

It’s a strategy that Mekies seems to embrace: "One of our top priorities is to ensure we maintain the right focus and avoid bottlenecks at every level of the organisation. With that mindset, we’re now taking the next necessary steps."

Marko, 82, also confirmed that Red Bull had a Plan B in case Mekies declined the offer to become team principal. However, he did not disclose who that alternative candidate would have been – despite being pressed for details.

It’s also worth noting that Horner is still officially under contract with Red Bull. A termination agreement is currently being negotiated and, until then, he remains on full salary. "No one will replace his [Horner’s] character," Mekies said. "No one can step into his shoes exactly. I’ve come in to do the job of CEO and team principal.

"Is there any way to do it the way Christian did? No.
Certainly not me. But we’ll be relying on the tremendous strengths within this team."

 

Horner was directly part of Red Bull going from scraps of a garage sale to being one of the most dominant teams in history. He gets canned over power and money. I would not want to be part of that team when the pencil pushers and bean counters are running the show.

I seriously could see Horner going to Aston Martin when he's finally released of his contract. Assuming Daddy Stroll can relinquish his stronghold on the team, perhaps they will actually improve to be a winner.

 

Stroll is a 1 man full Corporation with partners of course. He has everyone on a tight leash overall. Horner would probably have less freedom vs what he had with Dieter at RedBull.

Given the investments needed at RedBull for a PU and wind tunnel etc, its not a surprise those that actually own and run the operation felt the need to take more control. Horner, an employee and non partner/non shareholder of any consequence lasted longer than most. This so called power play, equates to a mature fully Corporate entity moving on from its formative/early maturation. Its really not the end of world.

Change can be good and Mekies is a solid engineer and leader with good results at Racing Bulls. He is known and has the faith of the board. Thats a very empowering situation.

The technical question of the new car, under Wache will be interesting to see develop. How expendable is he if it does not workout overall. So far his tenure with this car seems mixed to include last year.

 

Lawrence Stroll is by far the biggest problem to Aston Martin, even if he's also their biggest reason for potential success (aka: money).

I think if the owners of Red Bull corporate knew how to communicate they would have come to an agreement with Horner to find a more reasonable balance. This assuming Horner would have even accepted that balance. But for sure not one of those billionaire forbes penny chasers know how to run an F1 team or likely even know how to run an energy drink company. They pay people to do the job and reap the benefits. Without a doubt Horner did a fantastic job in his position and elevated the team to unforeseen grounds. Apparently Newey wanted a piece of the pie and it would seem Corporate wasn't having it and so he walked. I understand owners wanting control, especially if they know what they're doing, but they don't. I would say maybe Red Bull needs to fall from grace for the owners to see what they're losing, but it's already happened. For 18 months we've come to learn that Horner was not wanted by the Red Bull owners and the team has fallen apart since then.

Time will tell if their goal of having more department heads running the team in unison will work vs a single TP overseeing all aspect of the F1 program. If they lose Max, it could be some dark times for Red Bull F1.

 

Max is officially an idiot! That or Toto was negotiating with him just far too hard

 

that OR both Toto and Max (knowingly) used each other to get what they want: Toto Russell on a 1 + 1 deal at a value he deems appropriate, Max with more freedom within Red Bull and still a potential move for 2027 right there.

 

Let's be fair, without Lawrence Stroll, Aston Martin wouldn't exist in F1.
We can only hope the team will improve.

 

That's what I mean by he's their biggest reason for potential success. If he didn't micromanage and just let the team do what they know how to do, not to mention not operate around his awful son, then the team would be MUCH better.

 

Yuki needs to go. He is just not that good. He has had how many years now............

Tsunoda: 'Unfair' to compare to Verstappen given different Red Bull F1 car.

 

Interesting.

 

It isn't though. He had an equal spec car then threw it in a barrier, and lack of parts meant he isn't getting ALL the parts. The sum of those parts doesn't come anywhere NEAR the deficit he has on Max. And with parts limitation due to cost cap and also time constraints (much less time between races) this is not unheard of in teams these days.

Some teams have the (luxury) of doing it different such as Mclaren, who enjoy a huge advantage over the rest so test a part during practice (each driver gets a go), and when the part is successful it goes into production and introduced in a proper upgrade a few races later.

Don't bin your fully upgraded car and then cry you don't have any parts for it.

 

Id like to see Yuki succeed and see Japan enjoy a driver and success. He is not the driver at all. He has stayed way too long with little to nothing of substance to show. RedBull need to move him along and be done with it. Horner said not that long ago this would be his last season with any RedBull team.

 

move him along end of season, hadjar to RBR and Lindblad to Toro Rosso alongside known benchmark Lawson.

 

Yes you are confirming that they don't have the same car more often then not. And Max gets all the priority upgrades. We already knew that. You are not an engineer who has access to data from the upgrades, you have no idea about the affect and deficit percentages.

 

It's never been a secret. It's normal for teams for this to happen.

And no I'm not an engineer but we can deduce by reasonable assumptions and how much gap changed between Max and the cars around him with new upgrades vs what it was before and we will all come to the same conclusion that the upgrades are minimal.

On top of that some parts on Yuki's car ARE fully upgraded. Right now only the front wing is different and the difference in wings is minimal.

It's not the silver bullet you're looking for. Max is still heads and shoulders above anyone else. Deal with it.

 

They have different cars. No need to come up with all types of scenarios. This is why they wouldn't hire Yuki at first because he don't care, he will put the info out there. I thought you guys like drivers who tell it straight. No need to get mad at me, its not my fault. This is how RB works. Deal with it.

 

They wouldn't hire him but then did it anyways....as usual you make absolutely ZERO sense whatsoever.

There is no conspiracy. Had Yuki not written off the car he'd have the same spec. You asked for an explanation, you got it, now you're sulking as per usual as your conspiracy theory is as weak as your mind.

 

Lol. This came from Yuki, not me. He said Max's car is upgraded. You didn't see my name nowhere in the article. But you flip it on me as having conspiracy. Lol. Ok man.

 

We all know that Max and Lawson started the season with the same car. Max was about 1 second a lap faster. When Yuki stepped in, he wasn't really any closer than Lawson was.

When Perez and Max had the same car, Sergio was still 4-5 tenths behind. Same story for Gasly and Albon.

How many excuses do you need to tell yourself to deny that Max is not the difference maker?

 

Nuance is lost on this one...... No sense trying, really....

 

I just repeated what Yuki said. No need for me to make any excuses. Again this is a fact we have . The two cars are different. That's all. Lets accept it. Max is still doing great for a team who backs him.

 

And when the car was the same Yuki was still miles behind.

 

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