348 Door locking 'fun'...

I'm thinking it might be the actuator that has gone after manually pushing the stalk down.

When I lock the car, the drivers side stalk moves freely up and down no problem, and it will remain up, hence allowing me to use the key to get in that side.

As for the passengers side, the stalk 100% isn't going into the same fully extended up position. Even without any power, this will drop back down to the locked position. Sometimes it will barely stay up if I'm very slow/careful, but it'll always fall back down eventually with gravity. When turning the key in either direction and looking down into the mechanism, I can see that there is a vertical slot, and it's always remaining at the bottom, when I believe it should go to opposite ends of the slot depending on lock/unlock. Hard to explain in words, I apologise!

- Basically the same as this video, but again, with no door locking fuse in place.

 

I found this under my driver's door after the last drive btw. No idea if it's related at all, but there's definitely glue on the edge of it, suggesting a previous bodge
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Here's another video btw, which was taken as soon as I noticed it happening

 

So are you suspecting that my actuator is fine, and that it's the mechanism itself? I'm going to try wipe all that old grease off and silicone spray it tomorrow. I'll post an update once this is done.

 

I'll be giving that a shot tomorrow.

Yes, interior door handle moves freely on the drivers side, but it's completely stuck on the passengers side.

 

I might just take both doors off, free A/C then too.

 

I was trying that the other day. I was hooking and pulling up, but it just wouldn't shift. I've got the passengers window fully down so I can see in quite well. Perhaps I was hooking the wrong part. Mind highlighting which bit I need to pull up..?

 

Now that, I don't know. However, tonight I will put my phone in the door pointing up at this area, and I'll record you a video of exactly what happens. I'll do this both with and without power so we can see what happens. Hopefully that'll shed some light on it.

 

A lot of people have said this could actually be the source of the issue actually. I haven't tried taking this off yet. It looks like it just unscrews and pops off..?

It could also explain the fact that both the locking AND the power window has stopped moving in quick succession. I find it almost impossible to believe that both have failed at the same time. That lower door umbilical cable has the power for both parts clearly!

 

Correct. That video is from the drivers side, and yes, I can lock and unlock this door perfectly fine. The only issue is, when I unlock it, that's when the constant buzzing starts with the stalk popping up and down on the passengers side. If I re-lock it, this stops immediately.

With regards to the passengers side, yes, there is quite a lot of resistance when pulling up the stalk. On the drivers side, if I pull it up manually, it clicks and remains up top, where as it simply falls right back down on the passengers side. I have tried pulling up this stalk very hard, to the point where I'm a bit uncomfortable. I have also tried hooking the part of metal just above the bottom red arrow on your image, and pulling up. I was pulling VERY hard, and it just wouldn't come up at all. It feels like something is jammed, or could that be the actuator adding electrical force to stop this happening?

 

I am going to the car tonight to do some of the things suggested. I have;

* Air wedges to try give the passengers door a bit of assistance. Perhaps it's the door striker that is a bit misaligned, so I'll try pull the stalk up with one of these inflated.

* WD40 silicone. I'll wipe the old dry grease off the window runners as they were very slow, even with a window accelerator which I found was in the lower door. This could be part of the reason the drivers window ALSO stopped working.

* Electrical contact cleaner to spray inside the door switches, and also into the umbilical cable in the lower door. Perhaps some of the contacts have oxidisation, hence the window and door locking having issues on that side

* Box of spare fuses (I checked the RH window motor fuse in the footwell, and that was fine btw, which further points towards wiring issue)


Can you change the actuators easily with the door on? It looks like I'll need a mini right angle screwdriver to get access, but it looks to be only two phillips screws into the side of it.

 

For anyone that has re-terminated their door wiring in the umbilical, which terminal ends did you use, and what gauge wire? This job is on my radar also...

 

Does anyone have a door pin diagram showing the numbers and what each wire is for please? I found this post (below), but it is indicated that the pin layout changed from the early cars, and mine is a 92!

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/348-door-jamb-connector-pin-out.533972/

 

Thanks for confirming that I should be able to push down the stalk, it makes me feel a bit better about the situation, lol. I didn't think this would have caused the issue, as I could always do that with previous cars with central locking.

With regards to the passengers side, I DID have the battery disconnected at one point, but when I reconnected it, the sodding alarm started going off with the horn on full blast. Typically, the remote fob that he left in the centre tray, didn't have a battery! I had to remove the horn fuse, then luckily I had a battery inside that I could put in and then I could disengage the alarm (red light flashing in centre console).

Since that point, I decided to remove the fuse in the passengers footwell, which says it does "radio and central locking". It does definitely work, as the stalk on the passengers side WAS retracting electronically and making a clicking motor sound, but now it definitely does not. To confirm, the stalk falls under its own weight now, mechanically. I'll try get a video of this tonight, along with the drivers door. I'll do with both power and without.

Since the horn fuse is still out, I may try remove the battery terminal again also. So long as I can't get ignition with the key turned in the barrel, I'm good to go...?