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  1. ktu

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    Yes the cars are different. We don't know what else other than the wing. Not taking anything from Max. I'm just saying we can't gauge any performance gap from them.
     
  2. Alexweav79

    Alexweav79 Formula Junior

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    Do you work for red bull? Max said this weekend the cars are the same.
     
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  3. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Yep, in a post race interview.
     
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  4. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    No. My guess is none of us do. I was just going by what Yuki said. So Max says different. Interesting.
     
  5. JWeiss

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    Not interesting. From time to time, the cars differ by a component or a few, as has already been explained, and which is common in F1.

    You’ve latched onto this “cars are different” thing which will no doubt become your mantra for the rest of the season. I’m not sure why you seem to be pushing the theory that Max isn’t really severely out-driving his teammates.
     
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  6. SS454

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    It's also a fact that Max and Yuki setup up the cars differently. We often see Max with a high load front wing or a lower downforce rear wing, or maybe both. Yet Yuki simply cannot drive that setup and needs a more conservative setup with more rearward balance.
     
  7. ktu

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    This has been mentioned by Yuki. Him mentioning that its an unfair comparison tells me they are different enough in a way that is effective. And the point he brought it up in the first place says something. Again, his words no need to address me. Its his mantra. Max should be outdriving him if his car is upgraded. All I'm saying is that common sense would say you can't accurately compare performances with two different cars.
     
  8. kes7u

    kes7u Formula 3

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    Purposely obtuse. Again.
     
  9. Bas

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    Yuki said it in a thursday interview. Max sunday post race.

    Entire F1 weekend in between both statements.

    Since you don't work for Red Bull, what the **** do you know?
     
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  10. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    It's the only move a **** slinging simp has
     
  11. ktu

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    #10286 ktu, Aug 5, 2025
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    You have to learn how to not get emotional whenever something is said that impact Max and pretending to be a internet tuff guy. Yuki made his statement. From what I gather he is saying its unfair to compare them because the cars are different. We already know the car have been running different components in the past. Even if they give the upgrade to Yuki, it has to be dialed in, so he is behind the curve. I'm not taking anything from Max, just stating that there is no accurate way to gauge their performance when this happens.
     
  12. Bas

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    Once again you demonstrate your complete and utter absence of knowledge about F1.

    The cars are now identical once again (only reason they weren't here and there is because Yuki crashed the car and with that the parts) and he was MILES behind as per usual. What the **** are you talking about ''needing to dial in''. They already have the data.

    Yuki made the statement, a statement after that (and that you have been informed on) and you still keep your same, dumbass stance.

    The only one that's behind the curve is you, and you are so ****ing keen to reassure everyone on this forum you are by doubling, tripling down on your simple-ass, goal post moving statements.
     
  13. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    You just stated the front wing was different. Now you say they are identical. Explain.
     
  14. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    see post 10277
     
  15. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    Right, your intel gathered that the cars were different. Explain your intel.
     
  16. Bas

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    And you wonder why people constantly question your mental capability since it's spelled out for you all the time but you still are utterly incapable of adding 2 and 2.

    Yuki made a statement on thursday.
    Friday happened
    Saturday happened
    Sunday happened.

    3 practice sessions, a quali and a race. In this time yuki got all the parts again identical.

    Max is on an old engine, yuki got a brand new one for the race.

    Still, he finished a whopping 56 seconds behind Max, who himself was on a horrendous strategy.

    Do you get it now? Or too much information for you to process?
     
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  17. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    Read post 10275. This is the intel you sighted. Lets see can you process your own information.
     
  18. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Post 10277 supersedes 10275 with new information, do keep up.
     
  19. ktu

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    Ohh.... wait! ......wait ...But your statement/intel supersedes the race. Are you now saying your intel was inacurate? Surely surely, if you play internet tuff guy and call me incapable, there must be a mistake here? Becuase it sounds like you have no clue what you talking about.
     
  20. Bas

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    I was made aware of the new information just like you. I acted on it, you keep going back to old ********.

    This probably explains a whole lot about you. You take on one bit of information and it rattles around in your empty head and you refuse to absorb any new information.

    Even if the wings werent same spec. Do you honestly believe there is 56 seconds difference in the 2 wings over a race distance?
     
  21. kes7u

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    'Sighted' I don't think it means what you think it means.....
     
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  22. ktu

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    Failed again
     
  23. Bas

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    just like everyone else on this planet has trying to enlighten you, have a conversation or anything of the sort.
     
  24. SS454

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    @ktu since you are on a he said, she said rant against Max. How about this?

    In the post race interview it was mentioned to Max that the car was made for him and he directly said it wasn't. I guess that theory is debunked right?
     
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  25. ktu

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    Nope. He waited till he stop winning to say that. Its not a theory anyway, RB already stated it.
     

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