Building a poor man’s 575 FHP in 2025

Ask Daniel when John will supply him more rear anti-roll bars.

205619 is better than 201673 and available. 201674 is also an upgrade to 201673, but largely unavailable.

Springs show up here occasionally. HGTC springs are very slightly stiffer than FHP and work fine. Mixing FHP and HGTC springs F&R would work fine. So close, no noticeable difference in handling.

I have a set of take-off FHP pads, but they will squeal for quite a while until bedded. After 15,000 miles, mine only rarely squealed. The entire set of brakes was replaced with ceramics.

 

I have FHP on my '02 but now dealing with 1or 2 bad shocks, hopefully solved by using a salvage set. In doing research on shocks, etc., if I was in your situation, I would seriously look at an aftermarket solution. One possibility are the MSC coil overs. Probably least frustrating , cheapest way to get on the road with improved handling. No personal experience.

https://reidperformance.com/collections/ferrari-v12

 

I just replaced my suspension ECU 201673 with 205618 for about $3600. Andy at All Ferrari Parts was delightful to work with and WAAAAAY less expensive than the dealers. How "future" of a buyer are you? My 2004 575M is getting the dashboard recovered in two weeks and then it will likely be on the market. I just haven't put enough miles on it to justify keeping it.

 

Because demand has trailed off for these swaybars since the initial production, we're likely to order the next batch on a 'pre-sale' basis only. That is, we'd have a window of opportunity for customers to purchase the bars before we enter production. But, we'd only produce the requested number of bars plus a very few extra.

I do not have a timeline or revised pricing at the moment. My best guess would be Q4 delivery to customers.

 

When you take delivery double check steering & suspension ECU p/n - many have already been changed

 

Oooh! Link please!

 

The cheap(er) solution for springs is to get a set of H&R springs (I think PN 29288, spec'ed for the 456). I don't have documentation for the stiffness but supposedly they are slightly stiffer than the HGTC spec, but progressive so softer vs small bumps.

Alternatively can hunt for a set of HGTC or FHP spring set (expect to pay $$$). The rear FHP springs are NLA but nearly identical to HGTC (ie specs nearly overlap so if both red label, the HGTC springs are ever so slightly stiffer in the rear but a red FHP rear spring is stiffer on average than a white HGTC rear spring).

 

This got me curious. Possibly a dumb question, but what are these rear springs listed on the Eurospares website?

"Cagnola - PN 175887- Valid for cars with handling - Optional Fiorano equipment"

"Cosmos - PN 208679 - As an alternative - Valid for cars with handling Fiorano equipment - Optional"

 

FHP and HGTC springs, respectively. Again as mentioned the rear FHP springs (175887) are NLA (unless something changed/they made another batch but last I spoke 2ish years ago there was no plan to do so) but nearly identical to HGTC. The main difference in that HGTC are slightly longer and faintly stiffer when apples-apples comparison. I run HGTC rears (208679) as sub for FHP springs on my 456M. The slightly longer travel and stiffness is welcome for the heavier 456MGTA.


Ferrari Spring Technical Data

HGTC

Front (208678): 400 lbs
Rear (208679): 245 lbs ​

FHP

Front (175886): 375 lbs
Rear (175887): 245 lbs​

550/575M

Front (163648): 310 lbs
Rear (163652): 225 lbs​

456M

Front (168433): 290 lbs
Rear (168399): 195 lbs​

 

That's what made me curious. 175887 is available to order new for £697/pair on Eurospares.

 

Just because you can order it doesn’t mean it’s actually available….ask me how I know lol

 

Niiiiiiice

 

Very nice color combo. Do you know the cars history? 5k miles in 22 years is a little odd. Did a reliable shop do the belt service? I'm not sure what to look for in very low milage 575 but I'm sure there are people here who can give advice. Only thing that comes to mind is check for gas smell in trunk and cabin.

 

Definitely that. Also, anything that can dry out or seize or be ravaged by ethanol

 

Very nice! I never saw one with parking sensors before

 

IMO, the 575 is the last "old school" modern Ferrari. I've owned mine for 20 years and 115,000 of mostly trouble free driving. Just keep up with the maintenance, which isn't inexpensive but worth it.

 

Where does this data come from? I have not seen any data published in the WSM.

 

Looks like you are missing the RED key fob and make sure you get the PIN to start the car. If that stuff is not available then you might want to contact gobble on fchat to find out what it takes to make your car complete from that end. You really want a red fob and the PIN. You can get the PIN from Ferrari for big bucks and they fail to produce it at least 50% of the time and an EURO car in the USA makes ferrari want to help you less. Your dealer might promise it but they will 100% never come through. I think gobble can recover the PIN and I'm pretty sure he can get you all the proper FOB's.

 

It's like having missing tools. The value of the car is lower. Find out the cost of replacing these things and the very real possibility you get no where with Ferrari and you will know why that's important. The RED is a master and has some special features the blacks do not. You can clone extra blacks but there is an issue I can't remember like how the black transmits and after a while of suing blk1 if you suddently use cloned blk2 you have to press button a bunch of times to get the codes to synch. I forget exact details gobble can tell you. The the PIN is the way to start the car if your battery dies in the FOB of if the FOB does not work for some reason. I have needed to start my car with the PIN in the past. It is valuable to have. A potential owner will want all these things. Some buyers will pass on incomplete cars because there are so many cars to choose from. I am being picky. You can enjoy the car just fine with 2 blk fob's. It's just if I was buying a maranello and wasn't fully educated I'd hope someone would clue me in. I forget what ferrari was charging to get a PIN but I think it was in the $1000 neighborhood and you might not even get it. Gobble services could in in a similar cost neighborhood I do not know but he is a stand up guy and provided these services for many owners. I do not know what his current status is but I think he is still active in this area.