Antigravity Labor Day Sale...

Antigravity Batteries is a newer sponsor on FC, just wanted to relay that we are having a big sales on Labor Day for all our product lines.

If you not aware of who we are we make all things Lithium-Ion for the Motorsports Segment.

We make lightweight lithium Batteries that are drop-in fit for most Ferraris (some exceptions). Our Battery is 35lbs lighter than the typical Lead/Acid Battery, but has and incredible feature of WIRELESS Built-In Jump Starting so you will never be stranded by a dead battery again.

We make small Lithium Jump Starters that will outperform other top brands easily, we make Chargers that offer more features than the typical CTEK or other top brand chargers, For example having digital screens (no dummy lights) that tell you all the info, can charge Lead/Acid and Lithium Batteries, built-in Voltage Testing, Lithium Battery BMS resetting.... simply a more advance charger.

So if your in the market for these types of product please reach out to us directly at scott or chad @antigravitybatteries.com. Or check out our website. All our product have video so you can see what they offer and do beyond what our competitors do. Our objective is to put out the best products in their class, and we actually do that very well.

 

Hey Geoff, that for inquiring. bear with me I have a tendancy to explain or write to much, but it so you and others who may read after you have information...

They work very well in older cars for sure. They are a drop in replacement with no need for any mods to install. I use ours in my 66 Mustang, but yes that is really old and you may feel the Ferrari is a bit more sensative and newer, but the fact is the 1990-2006 Cars did not have Smart Alternators back then, so they run on a Fixed Charge rate which is actually better to a degree. For example new cars have varible charging rates and sometimes keep batteries in a low state of charge, but older cars with a fixed charge rate keep lithium and lead charged well so that is actually a benefit.

Another thing to explain in frying electronics, as an FYI a battery does not and cannot PUSH energy to fry electronics. As long as your voltage is in the correct voltage range then you are completely good. So cars and all vehicles are standardized for charging and operating in the 12v range and its the same with our lithium. So a battery when hardwired to the system, cannot fry that system because the battery does not push energy ever, it is only drawn from by the circuits in a car. So circuits, when turned on, draw energy from the battery, so the battery is actually inert like a glass of milk waiting to have milk pulled through a straw. So it can't actually fry any part of the system UNLESS you reverse connect it, or create arcs in the system. So the cause of frying electronics from a Jump Starter are usualy from bouncing the jump starters leads off the batteries cable and creating arcs in or around the electronics, but when a battery is hardwired into the system like it is when you connect the battery it can't fry anything.

So for trickle charging it is the exact same as for Lead/Acid Battteries BUT the caveat is you have to use a Lithium Battery Charger, and this is simply because a modern Lead/Acid Chargers has a Desulphate mode, often called a "Recondition" or "Save" mode that these modern lead/Acid Chargers use to reconditiion Lead/Acid battery... it uses spikes of voltage to remove Sulfate from Lead/Acid plates... but Lithium will never sulfate so you do not want these spiking voltages so you use a Lithium specific Charger. Then you might ask why you don't have to change the charging system in a Car also, but that is because a Car system is normal and does NOT have a "Desulfate" mode like a stand-alone Lead/Acid Charger does.

If you have any other questions let me know, and I'll reach out to some dealer and ask if they have specifically used our batteries in the 550 era cars.... but I can safely say that they do work in all Cars, but will try to get youreal world info on that.

 

Thanks for the inquiry... alway happy to tell about our batteries since it is actually a very new technology overall and alot of mis-information out there in some respects. Firstly I will tell you there is a video you can watch that is probably overly long but very informative here. Also on our website for the batteries >>>

So the basics are the Antigravity Lithium Battery is a direct replacement for a 12v Lead/Acid starter Battery in any Car. The cool things about our Antigravity Batteries are they have a WIRELESS built-in Jump Starting feature so you will never be stranded by a dead battery again, and you won't have to access the battery or mess around, you simply press the provided keyfob that come with the battery, no getting dirty or mucking around. For example, in the event your battery over-discharges, such as too long storage, lights or radio left on, or whatever, you simply press the keyfob for 3 seconds and that awakens the battey with enough energy to start the car a few times... you start the car and drive away, even someone who knows nothing about car jump starting can start the car and get out of that dead-battery emergency... So a wife, kid or any person not even familiar with having a dead battery can do it.

The other cool benefits are that it weighs 35lbs less than the comprable Lead/Acid Battery. For examle the most popular size for Euro sport Cars is the H6/Group 48 Battery, it wieghs about 54lbs, our battery is 20 lbs. So that a big plus in the performance Car Market for most. The Antigravity Battery also has a circuit board inside the battery ( called a Battery Management System- BMS) that monitors and protects the battery from over-discharge, over-charge, over current, over and under temperature and more... so the benefit of that is the battery is not allowed to be damaged by issues that damage lead/acid battery such as over-discharge, heat and such. Lastly (to keep this a bit short) is that Lithium provide a 2x to 3x time longer lifespan, and 2x the cranking power which is not marketing statements... this is due to the fact that lead/acid is rated for roughly 750 to 1000 cycles, a "cycle" is a full discharge and full recharge of a battery, it is how batteries are tested for longevity, but a Lithium Battery is rated for 3000 to 4000 cycles under the same testing procedure. Then you couple the Lithium Battery with it Battery Management System I spoke of above, and you get a much longer life Battery. As far as the cranking power, lithium is massively more powerful than lead/acid, but that is just a benefit, but cars start a bit brisker with Lithium.

Now the cons are mainly one... Lithium is much more expensive product at purchase ( currently)... meaning yes the value in the long run is better by quite a bit, but the cost of entry is about 2 to 3x higher than Lead/Acid depending on the model you go with. Depending on the Customer the value of the RE-START will out wiegh the hassle of lead/acid in any scenario, also the lifespan, and performance benefit is a plus, but cost is the one thing I can say is most often the cause of someone not choosing Lithium at this point in time. The Lithium Cells and the internal BMS are where the cost is much higher.

In terms of Charging... it works perfectly fine with the Cars/Trucks Charging system in the car and not modification is needed at all. The only difference is that you do not want to use a stand alone Lead/Acid Charger on lithium battery... not because the charging is so different, but rather because most modern lead/acid Chargers have a automatic mode for desulfating lead/acid batteries, but lithium does not ever "sulfate" and this desulfating process in lead/acid charger spikes voltages to a lead/acid battery to remove sulfates... so you don't really want that on your lithium Battery. So you use a Lithium specific Charger when you keep the battery on a charger in your garage.

For a battery charger combo we recommend our our new Super Chargers (either 4amp or 10 Amp version)simply because they are a modern charger capable of Charging Lithium AND Lead/Acid Batteries and have modern features above what CTEK and other brands offer such as a Digital Screen showing you live voltage and current going into the battery, they have a built in voltage tester and other new modern features and cost less than CTEKs.

Then for the Battery, I am a bit confused because Scuderia shows the H6 size for the 550/575 and that is the official part diagram for Ferrari, but others say the Group 34. So doing some research to confirm this... but in any event, the exterior case size can be make to work with a few different models being that the internals are all the same.

Here is the Battery size for H6 on our website. https://antigravitybatteries.com/products/starter-batteries/automotive/ag-h6-rs/
Here is the Charger Page https://antigravitybatteries.com/productline/super-chargers/

heres the scuderia diagram and that is and H6 size in the image...
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I wrote and email to Normal Guy Super Car and he informed me they had not had any issues with the use of Antigravity Batteries in any of the Ferraris which they used the batteries in. The buy and sell a variety of F-Cars and have had them in multiple different models from 355, 550s, 488s, F8, 458 and some others... but keep in mind we have sold to alot of other Ferrari owners outside of Normal Guy. but we don't really track the exact car unfortunately. He is just one dealer I called to ask, since they are honest and up front. We don't specifically know exactly how many or which cars our batteries are going into unless the Customer calls and tells us about thier car. So that is the best I can do with real world data for a exactly specific Car model. We are pretty big in the after market in the Porsche community and on Rennlist, as well as most the performance markets, and hotrod market, but we understand Ferrari is its own animal, so we are getting more penetration now into this market being I decided to bring the company on F-Chat because I bought a 296 in March, and now am looking at an older model too, since I sort of prefer older cars...

Also as a note, we are in the Pagani Eutopias (latest Pagani Hypercar), and also the new Ford GTD Mustangs that are built by Multimatic for Ford. So they use our off-the-shelf battery and we don't customize our batteries for them... so that is a pretty big feather in our cap... for supplying OEMs. Though we sell way more to aftermarket since the Pagani and GTD are limited production Cars.

 

So we do know the size, but that size is per the Ferrari's own Micro-Fiche, which SHOULD always be correct, and shows and H6 Battery, as you see in the image above, but if you search Google some are saying they use the Group 34. So perhaps both fit, but the only way to confirm is to check your car itself because manufactures sometimes put in different models during assembly because they both fit and both work even though sizes might be slightly different. So it is always best to confirm by looking at your battery. In the image above for the 550 and 575, it shows an H6 absolutely.... but again that should be verified by the owner in their personal car.

Also, from this F-Chat link, most are in fact using the H6 size. For a Ferrari, due to higher parasitic drains you would want to go with a 60Amp Hour version of our H6 if you were to go with Lithium.

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/battery-change-575-maranello.668105/

 

Yes Terminals are the correct size. As an FYI, European, USA and most the world use a standardized SAE Terminal, meaning all automotive batteries have this same size standardized terminal. Japan used a different size a while back but that doesn't count.

 

Hi Geoff,

First I want to say thanks for going with tthe Antigravity Battery, I know you had some questions and probably felt you are taking a leap of faith being its a newer technology and its more expensive than an AGM, but we will absolutely stand behind our product and if you not totally satisfied for any reason we'll offer you a full refund for 4 months, and beyond that we'll replace it if there is any issues, but if you simply keep it maintained as you would any battery, you should not have any issues with it at all.

If you do accidentally discharge it, remember you have the built-in Wireless Jump Starting, so if you ever do accidentally discharge the battery you can easily start you car just pressing the provided Keyfobs. I recommend keeping one in the glove box, and the other at home, this way if your out on the road and end up with a dead battery you can just go to your glove box and find the keyfob. Also if you do ever have to use the RE-START feature just make sure to recharge the battery fully on a Charger, or drive sufficiently to get a full charge back into the battery, because if you have over-discharged it deeply enough to use the RE-START it will need to be brought back up to a full level of charge so you have that reserve again.

In regards to the modification of shaving the plastic tray.... thanks for posting those images. At first I was scratching my head since our battery is the exact same size as the standardized H6, H7 sized batteries, but yes the footer cleat might be slightly different than the stock battery. I know we fit into 458 and other series without any issues, but as you demonstrated that area needs toa be shaved, I hadn't seen that before, so that is great to know. Thx.

Do you have the picture of your original battery, was it the Ferrari one or another brand, .... I just want to know so I can see their footer orientation and what size is says it is because Scuderia said H6, other sites said Group 34.