296 VS

When I said "more linear than a non-hybrid turbo, which I like", I meant that I like that the hybrid is more linear. (I realize now my wording could be interpreted to mean the opposite.)

To be clear, I wasn't criticizing the 296. I like the immediacy of hybrid torque and also like the crescendo experience of an NA engine. I didn't mean to imply that the 296 is inauthentic. Just saying I think I get what people mean.

My seat time in a 296 is limited so far. When I drove it, I thought it was phenomenal. I did think the torque came easily. It was fun to ring it out, but it didn't feel as necessary to do so. Part of that could just be that it's so damn fast, however, and less about the torque curve.

One thing that was very clear after driving it: I want one.

 

Has anyone submitted a spec with no shields yet?

Here's a 'fire and ice' spec I put together, grigio alloy over rosso Dino alcantara Daytonas, orange calipers and CF caps. No shields.

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I didn’t think you were, no worries. What I like about the 296 is you don’t have to be driving all-out to be rewarded. That reminds me of the 458 when you can drive 40mph and still feel something. The sf90 did not do that for me.

 

Beautiful spec! Just looks better without the stripe on some colors but gotta get one I was told over and over again.

 

That's exactly why I like it. It's fun to drive even when you're only doing 30% of what the car can do. Even when not going above half throttle.

Like everyone says speed and performance is so easy to achieve these days, but it's almost unusable on the road. That's why having fun below the limit is more important to me now than all-out performance, and the 296 is one of very few cars to achieve that. Another that comes to mind is the C8 Z06.

 

I’m kinda liking no stripe too. I may see if there are other decorative options.

 

I was tempted to do no shields (like my GTB) but they're free on this car. Free! So I guess I'm getting the shields.

Great looking spec.

 

I dunno I felt like they kind of put $1,400 more into the price of the car somewhere to force that.

yeah I’m just exploring, I did shields on my prior orders, but I do have this thing about wanting to make the car stand out, and no shields is definitely an outlier on any model these days.

 

If you're so sure, then give me some solid reasons:

A new 296 Speciale Aperta costs the same as a Ferrari 488 Pista Spider on the secondary market. So my question is quite clear: why should a 296 Speciale Aperta be worth more than a 488 Pista Spider?

I would say that the two cars are most likely worth the same, which means that the 296 Speciale Aperta would not increase in value.

There are too many 296 Speciale Apertas the cars aren't even sold out, and customers can get their hands on the Apertas too easily for them to increase in value.

 

Pista is also not a hybrid, so realistically speaking, the 296 Speciale Apert is a good car, but its potential is very limited and it will most likely not increase in value.

Furthermore, none of us know how long Ferrari will continue to build the 296 Speciale Aperta or how many cars will be produced.
You @Lagunae92 also dont have any real information.

 

Where are the available apertas? Anyone here able to just walk in a get one???

 

You definitely have solid evidence for your claims that you will show us right?

I couldn't get an Aperta. A friend I know had an 812GTS and Portofino, currently has a 296 GTS and 296 Challenge, and a Purosangue, and 12C spider on order. He didn't get an Aperta either.

 

Terrific. You should have no trouble getting me an allocation then.

As soon as you have one, let me know. I'll be glad to pay you a finders fee.

I have two Ferraris in my garage, both purchased in the last three years from the same dealer. I expressed strong interest before the launch and have reiterated my interest several times since. I can't even get a coupe. I might get one eventually. But - there's your fact.

Doesn't mean they'll appreciate. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I never made a claim either way.

 

Okay, I don't want to start an argument, but let's stick to reality, and you can't argue with that. Maybe it's not so easy to get hold of an Aperta, but that doesn't mean that people on the secondary market are paying over msrp for a 296 Speciale Aperta. Many people aren't convinced by the car, especially as a collector's item. @Lagunae92

 

Agree

 

So we agree that a 296 Speciale Aperta will be a fast car, but not a collector's car that will increase in value. For that cas there is something special missing from the 296 Speciale.

 

I don't know if we're agreeing it won't go up in value. Who knows? It certainly has more headwinds than the 458 Speciale. For one thing the starting price is much higher, so there's a bigger hurdle to overcome. The 458 also benefited from being the last of its breed, whereas the 296 will likely be succeeded by another V6 hybrid. Then, there's the bias and anxiety against hybrids.

But then again, it is a VS. It's going to be fantastic to drive. It looks great, or at least a lot of people think so. It isn't going to be made in tiny numbers, but not in enormous numbers either.

My guess is it does OK. Maybe it drops. Maybe it ticks up. Maybe it drops, then ticks up. Time will tell.

 

Pistas, Speciales, they all dropped initially. Obviously he has a crystal ball and the thousands of people turning away apertas is unheard of, but he has that knowledge. I guess I’ll just enjoy mine when it comes. I’m done.

 

Yes, that could well be. How many cars do you think will be built? What did your dealer say?
2000 Apertas?

 

I'm a big fan of shield deletes - it's so visually clean, especially on the modern mid-engined cars because there's not a lot of space for them to begin with.

It'll be a unique spec on the VS in particular, since the default config has shields as a no-cost option.

 

What do people think about roof color? I'm considering a non-black roof, maybe a contrasting silver or gray. Yet to have my car specced, but have a lot of stripes already, so looking for a different livery.

 

I don't like the black capsular cockpit look they've done on most models since the 458. Colored roof for me. And I like the color-matched A-pillars of the GTS too.

 

Wat? Too many Alperts and they are not sold out? Where is this dealership? I’m calling BS. Please let us know the dealership, I personally know 15 people who didn’t even get a Speciale allocation.

 

He’s a joke…just fyi

 

That's not many, 15 people.
The 296 Speciale will have problems on the secondary market with its V6 engine. It won't work like the previous lightweight Ferraris did, because collectors aren't interested in a V6 and people won't pay a $300,000–400,000 premium for a 296 Speciale.
Also wait one year and they will get a allocation.