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2025 Singapore GP: Post Race Analysis

Discussion in 'F1' started by SS454, Oct 5, 2025 at 1:29 PM.

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  1. SS454

    SS454 Formula 3

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    One of the longest races, one of the hottest races, and unfortunately one of the most boring races. Even the drivers didn't spend 90% of the race managing their cars, there just isn't anywhere to pass, even with 4 DRS zones.

    Mercedes somehow found themselves with a great car. George Russell had a magnificent Q3 to put his car on pole and pretty much controlled the race from the start. Far from being a dominant car so he did have to push but was never really threatened for the win. Antonelli finishing P5 showed the car was good. However he was a distant 33 seconds behind Russell, yeesh.

    Red Bull definitely not as strong as they were in the low downforce tracks like Baku and Monza. However, Singapore has traditionally not being a great track for Red Bull. Max complaining about balance, shift issues, and who knows what else so it's pretty darn impressive he was able to finish P2. Unlikely he would have been able to fend off the McLaren's at a track that offers even slightly better passing opportunities. Yuki bringing the car up to P12 is a positive I suppose. Yes he was better in the race than quali and made progress, but he finished a lap behind his teammate.

    McLaren probably still had the best car in the race. Singapore seemed to really enhance the dirty air effect yet McLaren seemed to perform the best in dirty air and were as fast or faster than George in clean air. Huge discussion about Lando bumping Oscar on the start. Over-dramatic considering it was a minor moment. Lando had a gap, he want for it, had a couple wiggles and made minor contact with Oscar, big deal. That's racing and kudos to Lando for going for it. If he wants to be a champion he needs to go for those gaps. Oscar crying about it and all but asking the team to swap the positions was pathetic. Oscar has been the better driver all year, so be the better driver and attack Lando on track.

    Ferrari another disappointing race. Extra disappointing since Singapore has been one of their strongest tracks in recent years. Charles said he was managing a lot which perhaps could explain some of why he was slow, but he was a long way off the top 4. Hamilton had a poor start on the dirty side of the track and then just didn't have any pace. When it appeared like he did have pace, it turns out he was flat out while others were managing and he cooked his brakes. Deserving received a 5 second penalty for cutting the track on his final lap. Would love to see a full onboard as he had at least 4 track limit violations on that lap alone. Just because you have a mechanical failure doesn't mean you get to create your own track when you are intending to finish the lap.

    Aston Martin had a reasonable car for a change. Alonso had some brilliant overtakes in the race, one of the few to do so. Good pace overall. His team once again let him down with a terrible pitstop which cost him 7 seconds, but because of Alonso's good driving he still finished in the same spot. Lance Stroll must hate Singapore, he was lousy. I suppose the team was banking on a safety car because they really murdered his race by keeping him on softs for 35 laps or whatever it was.

    Haas was in the thick of the races all day and came out with a P9. Great race for Bearman. He worked hard and beat his competitors fairly, even after getting a good shunt at the start of the race. Completely destroyed Ocon who finished P18.

    Williams shockingly got a point with Sainz finishing P10 despite starting from the pit lane. Overall an outstanding finish. Surprisingly they also opted to stay on their first set of tires long and Carlos was even stuck behind Stroll for a number of laps. It's incredible they scored a point. Albon looked like he was doing okay until he had the huge lock up which flatspotted his medium tires and he was forced to go onto a set of softs which too many laps remaining to make anything of it.

    RB's just failed to finish in the points. A tough day as Hadjar battled engine troubles of some kind which supposedly cost him 3 or 4 tenths per lap. If it wasn't for those issues he likely would have had a points finishing result, perhaps even staying ahead of Alonso. Lawson did not have such a great day.

    Alpine looked pretty bad once again. On the rare occasion, Colapinto finished ahead of Gasly but it meant nothing today.

    Sauber back to being one of the worst teams. Perhaps high downforce tracks just don't suit their car. Both Bortoleto and Hulkenberg had issues with contact or spins or whatever, so neither was in position to score points.

    Driver of the Day: Fernando Alonso. Exceeded expectations of the car, made some fantastic passes on a track you cant pass, and even overcame adversity from the slow pitstop. Outstanding.
     
  2. 375+

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    +1 Spot-on.
     
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  3. LVP488

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    Piastri's remarks were indeed useless, but one can notice he finishes 2s behind Norris in spite of losing about 3s in the pit stop (with a 5.2s stop).
     
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  4. watt

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    McC will get their comeuppance soon enough. Lando ruining Max's last Q3 run with coasting along, generating dirty air put in the context of WDC means payback will be a b.tch: Max owes Lando one. And now Oscar owes Lando more than one, trivialising this event is wrong when prior give aways from Oscar to Lando mean the effeminate McC "rules" [which keep changing to help change Lando's diapers] are finally collapsing under their own stupidity and unfairness.
     
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  5. ago car nut

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    Boring, and lift and coast! Not like F1 racing in the past were they went flat out the whole race.
     
  6. Agent Smith

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    This was one of the most boring ‘races’ I’ve ever seen in my life. Saying that as someone who has watched this sport religiously for the better part of 3 decades.
     
  7. Jack-the-lad

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    Amen. Finally a reasoned assessment. Lando went for it like a racer would. Piastri had no reason to complain. Does he expect deference just because he’s leading in points? It doesn’t work that way, son.
     
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  8. fatbillybob

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    come on…it was exciting for the first five seconds…such high expectations….
     
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  9. pkl03

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    Fair comment and I agree, but the issue is that McLaren are not consistent in how they treat their drivers.
    Oscar lost 3 points through no fault of his own by the team favouring Norris.
     
  10. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    This. Not much to analyze at all.
     
  11. Spet00

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    Lico has to be Ferrari's most used word this season. Every race "lico lico lico". 200 meters before the braking zone "Please lico".
     
  12. Bas

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    The issue isn't Norris going for an overtake. The issue is Norris essentially failing said move, by crashing into both Max and Piastri. Had the move been clean, he absolutely earned that position, but he drove into a gap that was always going to disappear and barged Piastri out of the way, which goes against Mclaren's rules of engagement.

    Piastri made a point of this because he's been on the losing end of papaya rules all season and when there was 100% definite scope for him to finally benefit from this, Mclaren made up a story claiming that Norris had to avoid Max. Piastri isn't stupid and knows full well what happened.

    I'm all for him to get pissed now and treat Norris the same way, reject team orders and focus on his own championship. I said it at the time, his Monza move was dumb, and it only took 2 races for me to be proven correct. I'll say it now: These papaya rules can well end up being extremely costly for Mclaren. If Max wins COTA, it's absolutely game on for the championship and all 3 will know it. Norris will not adhere to the papaya rules and Piastri will take matters into his own hands. If he and Norris tangle, Max will benefit hugely and Mclaren will have pissed away another WDC with their idiotic equality rule. Did no one ever tell them life isn't fair?
     
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  13. andreaguthrie

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    Overall the race was fairly dull, but Alonso and Sainz put on a great show with impressive drives from both. Max also did a solid job holding on to P2.
     
  14. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    COTA is bumpy. Mclaren were not bump happy in Singapore as they stated. This will be interesting.
     

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