Ferrari “Elettrica”

As long as they don't make many.

 

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The level of whining on this thread is unbelievable...

No one has seen the car; it's been designed by an exterior styling firm, so why speculate on imaginary views that echo Manzoni's gimmicks?

The drop in the share price has nothing to do with electric vehicles, but with forecasts for 2030 that are less crazy than anticipated—the share price remains incredibly high. Read some financial analyses...

The e-building is already operational, part of the Purosangue and Testarossa production lines are located there, and it was never said that it was 100% dedicated to electric vehicles. The battery assembly lines are in the testing phase; I saw them in operation yesterday.

Ferrari knows very well that this car is not primarily intended for Ferraristi. They are announcing that 20% of their catalog will be electric by 2030, while 40% will remain combustion-powered and 40% hybrid. Does it bother you so much to see two electric models in the range when the V12 will still be there? What must Porsche or Lamborghini fans be saying!

 

This is the new paint shop, due to be opened in 2026. E-building is behind that one...

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Ferrari knows very well that this car is not primarily intended for Ferraristi. They are announcing that 20% of their catalog will be electric by 2030, while 40% will remain combustion-powered and 40% hybrid. Does it bother you so much to see two electric models in the range when the V12 will still be there? What must Porsche or Lamborghini fans be saying![/QUOTE
Ferrari knows perfectly well that it isn't Porsche, Lamborghini or any other manufacturer. The countless surveys Ferrari conducted with current car owners are the main reason why it postponed the launch of the Elettrica. Owners said categorically that they will never, ever, buy an Elettrica for the simple reason that they believe a Ferrari without a combustion engine should never bear to use the Ferrari name. Electtrica is a completely different product, aimed at a wealthy clientele who in many cases abhor combustion engines and appreciate autonomous driving therefore should be commercialized with a different name. The consequences for the brand of not doing so will be seen in a few years time.

 

Just another soulless model that cements my belief that Ferrari cares more about attracting the tech-obsessed and designer hand bag crowd than the petrol-blooded gearhead.

 

Got this in my inbox https://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk/ferrari-elettrica/

 

Nobody's whining, we're just witnessing and commenting about Ferrari's slow but steady downfall.

Even Abarth prior developing the 500e made a lot of market research with clients and enthusiasts and despite all the (negative) feedbacks they decided to go 100% electric anyway and.. the rest is history.

You say this car is not primarily intended for Ferraristi? This car is intended for nobody, I don't really understand who's gonna buy this of their own free will!

Even Lamborghini is delaying their 100% electric car even though with Audi's tech they could do that quickly right now.

Depreciation on this car will be quicker than the 0-100 and most of them will be sold just with the blackmail if you want any other particular model.

There's room for electric cars in this world but definitely not for companies like Ferrari. Ferrari has become way too arrogant these days and we already see the results in Formula1, worst is yet to come also for their road going models if they keep this road.

Oh and btw, originally they planned 40% of the annual production for 100% electric cars by the end of the decade.. wonder when they will update that figure with a smaller number?

Let's look at the bright side.. our pre Manzoni era models will be more appreciated in the future!

 

Is the body an extra?

 

Not of the annual production !!! 40 % of electric models in the range. They just reduced that number to 20 %. That means 2 different cars by 2030.

Are you aware that in accordance with European legislation, they will eventually have to reduce the production of internal combustion engines in Europe, so building electric vehicles is not really a choice for them...

"Nobody's whining, we're just witnessing and commenting about Ferrari's slow but steady downfall" sounds like the perfect definition of whinning.

People here should stop living in the past. The 1960s and 1980s are long gone. How do you expect Ferrari to evolve in the modern era? They are already doing a lot to preserve their heritage, much more than manufacturers such as Porsche or Lamborghini, which now have a 100% hybrid range.

 

On October 6th, Ferrari Capital Markets Day 2025 was held. The first hour, or so, was simply a marketing and preparation exercise about the Elettrica's virtues. It featured interventions first by Chairman John Elkam, then by CEO Benedetto Vigna, and finally by Chief Marketing and Commercial Officer Enrico Galliera, who is that super salesman in a handsome Italian suit we all wish we had in our company to sell fridges to the Eskimos.

After this lengthy introduction, Chief Research & Development Officer Ernesto Lasalandra provided more concrete details about the Elettrica. As can be seen in the first picture below, in terms of range, Ferrari placed the Elettrica over the Purosangue. In the second picture, Mr. Lasalandra presented Ferrari's electrification journey, which begins with hybrids and culminates with the Elettrica, suggesting that the future of this family will be 100% electric. The projection on the third picture praises the innovative nature of the Elettrica, and finally, the fourth picture presents the phrase that Ferrari has always publicly disdained: "Autonomous driving."
With the highly divisive new designs and the emergence of models fully electrific, IMO, it's now possible to say with a high degree of certainty that Ferrari's loss of identity as an iconic brand is becoming a reality. The only good news is that as the new models from the Elkam, Vigna, Manzoni, Galliera, and Lassandra era lose their character and become less and less Ferrari, the older Enzo, Montezemolo, and Pininfarina era models will continue to rise in value.




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why is the f80 hardly covered in thegraph with autonomous driving? it has an incredible about of technology / driver assistance on the car

 

ferrari will be doomed if they make a SUV.. but it is a hot seller now. i think they will able to sell the elettrica also

 

I disagree a bit Mario. Their designs have always had criticism, especially at first, we, the very passionate Tifosi/ Ferraristi/ tend to grow to love something, then they change it, then we cry about the change, and then we grow to love it. Sometimes the changes leave us cold, and we exit the ride. Sometimes of us stay on, and some of us keep going. Overall, I think they’ve done a masterful job of bringing the brand along, and expanding the client base. They have to evolve. The rules change, the customers change, everything changes. I think whats happened is they used to make many fewer models, and thus, each model could appeal to a large portion of the same group of people. You could say they could have stayed the same company, just making the same models, avoided going public. What then? We might get another few cycles of cars that we all love, but, how is Stellantis stock doing these days (I haven’t looked, I really dont know, but a few months ago it was pretty poorly!) well, that Ferrari would have been the cash cow inside of Stellantis and how would the pressure be much different? Yes their share price went down a bit, but as noted, this was due to the profits growth forecast being more conservative than they had previously guided. From the outside, as long as this is conservative, this looks like a sensible approach, as any surprises will be to the upside. It just goes to show you that their shares were valued pretty close to fully, and with new data, the level needed to be reset; but supposing they keep selling cars, the share price will come back. On a personal level, yes, I bleed Rosso Corsa just like everyone here, and I wish they’d just make a V12 stick shift car, and I am probably not a buyer for the EV, but, thats just one person.

So my friends, ask if there are still people who dream of owning a Ferrari, don’t get so lost in the details, the answer is yes. Most people don’t know what we do, they just want to be a part of the dream. Ferrari will be there to sell it to them. That they make an EV doens’t mean we have to lose our passion for Ferrari. JMHO.

 

Were you in the room? Because I was and can give a bit of context here.

Regarding this slide, it was said that Ferrari would never manufacture autonomous cars.

This was a slide about what Ferrari can manufacture in-house (in red) and what cannot be done in Maranello or os done by suppliers (in white). Don't let images taken out of context say what they don't say.
They said that they obviously had to get involved in ADAS, but specified that they would not go any further in terms of autonomous driving.

 

Let’s hope the design team made this a looker. As much as many of us on this site have disdain for electric performance vehicles- they are here to stay. So as they say I’m along for the ride but at least make it a good looking car ( I don’t doubt the performance will be electric)
And no artificial sounds please.
It may make this the first truly justifiable daily driver Ferrari has ever made

 

You’re painting with a very broad stroke. Look at the 458. A handful of dorks complained about the flexi wings in the front saying it looked like a mustache for a couple weeks. Today you have the masses and many automotive journalists showing great concern or taking outright issue with the styling of the cars for years now. These are quite different situations.

 

I wasn't in the room, but I watched it alive from the beginning until the end also listening to what was said while the images were projected.
If autonomous driving is not on Ferrari's horizon then why mention it? We'll see what happens in the future when Electtrica's buyers start asking for this option. IMO in the end it will all come down to the amount these buyers are willing to pay to have the autonomous driving extra on their Elettricas.

 

We had a media Q&A session, which may not have been broadcast (after the Q&A session with investors), and at one point I clearly heard that Ferrari would not be manufacturing autonomous cars.
It is interesting to note that Galliera said (I am quoting from memory): “We know that there are Ferrari customers who do not want the Elletrica, but there are also Ferrari customers who already own electric cars and would be interested, as well as new customers who are interested in electric cars and autonomous cars.”

 

Given the time they spent explaining to us that the Elettrica will be superior to powerful Chinese EVs in terms of driving pleasure in corners during the technical presentation of the chassis the day before the CMD, but also how much work they put into the sound so that it would inform the driver of what is happening at the rear axle, I sincerely doubt that they are considering autonomous driving.

You may not like the direction Ferrari is taking, but I think it's fair to say that they are very smart when it comes to defining their products for modern world. At the end of the day, Ferrari is not about power, speed, or performance, but about pure driving emotions. They will be forced by legislation to make an EV, but as long as it is not mandatory to make autonomous cars, the driver will be at the centre of the car.

Let's be optimistic: remember that while the product plan announces that there will be 20% electric vehicles in the range by 2030, it also says that there will still be 40% pure combustion engine vehicles. Once again, when you look at what Lamborghini is becoming, it's exceptional.

 

You can also respect other people's views and avoid lecturing them and telling them how they should spend their money. In this regard, it's best to return to your main concern: the RACE curve.

 

I don’t think so. I agree about the 458, but, even back then, if you showed the 458 to the big fans here, they would be critical, like you mentioned, I remember the whiskers and moustache criticism, I showed it to my family, they said- wow, thats cool! I remember Clarkson saying the design was an all time great design, at the time I thought it was terrible (I thought the 430 much nicer…. How wrong I was…. I was out at Pebble when the Dodici Cilindri was new and I asked friends who are not really big car people what they thought- it was the total opposite of the criticism here. They all loved it. You might say- well, who buys these cars? Surely it’s the enthusiasts…. Yes, they are some of the buyers, but not all. I don’t see the new designs as very much different. They might not be able to have the once in a generation timeless design of the 458, but, they had some design hits in recent times. I just think it’s really more of the same, it will have ebbs and flows.

 

And yet, when LCDM saw the 458, the front bumper was different and without the whiskers, and much better in my opinion...it was the aerodynamicists who imposed them

 

Jerry, I agree that Pininfarina also designed models in the past that received negative and mixed reviews. By my count—I could be wrong—Pininfarina designed about 80 different Ferraris, and Flavio Manzoni has 34 models so far (including all variants of some models and excluding one-offs). So I think it's now possible to statistically assess the percentages of extremely well-received designs, those that received mixed reactions, and those that had a largely negative reception. Although the number of models designed by F.M. is now approaching half of those designed by Pininfarina, my feeling is that the latter had many more extremely well-received designs than the former. IMO, the only F.M. designs that can aspire to enter this extremely well-received category are the Iconas and the LaFerrari, given that other equally well-received designs, such as the F12 TDF, the 458 Speciale, and the 488, are progressions inspired by the F12B and the 458, which Pininfarina penned. As for controversial designs that had a largely negative reception, Pininfarina also accumulated a few over the decades, but the feeling I get is that Flavio Manzoni ultimately collected some in a period of few years.
Regarding the Elettricas, no matter how many arguments are presented to me, IMO, they are complete heresy because they distort the brand by using the Ferrari name and emblem, which are symbols that have always been the prerogative of the best combustion engines with a unique sound. Just like what happened with Dyno but in a completely different situation, I think the Elettricas shouldn't be labelled Ferraris but something else. Maybe Pieros

 

I love everything Ferrari is trying to achieve with the Elettrica.

Even if you hate the idea of an EV from Maranello, in a brief moment of truth and clarity, you have to admit you admire what Ferrari is trying to achieve with the Elettrica.

Unlike all the other marques, Ferrari isn't trying just to make the fastest EV (been there, done that), but prioritizes handling and driving dynamics with four independent motors, the Gen 3 suspension system, and independent rear wheel (as in singular) steering, with an estimated range of 330+ miles.

All of that and it weighs less than the current gen G90 M5.

What's not to like?