Has Ferrari Lost It's Luster? | Page 21 | FerrariChat

Has Ferrari Lost It's Luster?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by rob lay, Jan 31, 2025.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Newjoint

    Newjoint Formula 3

    Jan 17, 2016
    1,503
    I’m sure if Ferrari could get away with it they would charge for every screen background you decide to try- yellow tach, red etc. They no longer nickel and dime you for every option- they are $1K and $10K…ing you for everything. The base cars are decontented to force people to spend upwards of $100-200K in options(and that’s not including Tailor Made) which other luxury brands include in the price and offer a limited number of packages. And yes I know multiple people will states” oh, it’s a customized car…yada, yada, yada” Well then why not only offer Atelier or TM cars only for these exorbitant prices.
    The market will eventually tell us what it thinks of these fast but not fastest, edgy but atrocious looking cars. Emotions indeed.
     
    singletrack and JCR like this.
  2. paulchua

    paulchua Cat Herder
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 1, 2013
    16,607
    Menlo Park, CA
    Full Name:
    Paul Chua
    Anyone who’s actually followed Ferrari for more than five minutes can see the pattern — every time a new design drops, there’s a whole parade of jokers racing to one-up each other with “this is the ugliest Ferrari” takes. It’s a tradition at this point — predictable as the sunrise.

    I mean, I would be embarrassed to walk into a room full of real gearheads and announce how “ugly” the LaFerrari is today. Or how the F8 is a terrible design? Or that the SP1/SP2 are hard to look at? I’d get laughed right back out the door.

    Yet, here we are=
    Give it five to ten years and watch how quiet these most of these folks get about their “hot takes.” I get it — some people genuinely just think any modern car smells bad, and that’s fine. But claiming a new design marks the end of Ferrari? That’s a little dramatic, no?

    It's like clockwork, today it's the 12Cilindri, F80, 896 — the latest examples in the eternal saga of “Ferrari is doomed the car is so ugly”

    I’ve always wondered what drives that mindset. Maybe it’s because the Ferrari they own (or sold) just happens to be their personal “peak,” so everything after that has to be worse by default as some sort of hard cope?— folks being clowns, or probably kids that are upset the latest design didn't match their sketch they scribbled on their toilet paper.
     
    BuyHighSellLow and jm2 like this.
  3. imahorse

    imahorse F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Nov 25, 2017
    4,543
    WI
    Full Name:
    Dustin
    I don't think anybody is disputing that there were people that spoke out against previous Ferrari designs. There isn't a car out there that doesn't have at least somebody who hates it. I think what is different now is how many more people are speaking out now. The F80 and 849 have threads going on with multiple posts a day discussing the disdain for the designs. There are multiple.threads about Ferraris perceived lackluster designs and Ferrari losing their way. I think that it is a lot more prevalent now than a stray post here or there.

    While mclaren and lamborghinis recent designs haven't been very highly praised, I don't think that they have been met with the same level.of disdain that has been directed at Ferrari. I think it also speaks volumes when a lot of that disdain is coming from owners.
     
  4. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

    Mar 16, 2011
    5,860
    Pittsburgh, PA

    LOL. The irony.
     
  5. BenB

    BenB Karting

    Dec 14, 2007
    109
    Illinois
    Full Name:
    Ben B
    On a recent visit to the factory, I learned about Ferrari's initial plan for 40% of their production to be electric, another 40% hybrid, and 20% internal combustion engines. I have since heard that they've changed that ratio to 40% i.c.e., but it still brings their judgement into question.
    Personally, I don't care if my new Ferrari is the fastest hypercar in existance, but I do want it to be the most exciting, engaging, thrilling car to drive with looks like a supermodel.

    Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
    singletrack and rob lay like this.
  6. audi_328

    audi_328 F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Jul 13, 2005
    2,892
    NH
    Full Name:
    Audi
    A good chunk of that is, rightly or wrongly, people expect more from Ferrari. Unfortunately, Ferrari specifically is gonna get extra hammered anytime they don't knock it out of the park.

    If Lamborghini or McLaren came out with their own version of the F80 or 849, I'd bet they'd go over better with their clientele.
     
    imahorse likes this.
  7. Ferrari 308 GTB

    Ferrari 308 GTB F1 Veteran

    Feb 21, 2015
    8,095
    Tropical
    Forgot the Mondiale?
     
  8. vandevanterSH

    vandevanterSH F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Jan 27, 2005
    3,405
    AR
    Full Name:
    Stephen Van Devanter
    " but it still brings their judgement into question."
    ****
    How many of those decisions are "their" desires and judgement vs trying to survive as a company with the EU's draconian "Green" mandates and regulations?
     
  9. forty1

    forty1 Karting

    Jul 4, 2024
    148
    Australia
    Full Name:
    Nico
    They sell less than 10k vehicles pa into Europe, so legally they could still build those old school, high emission / NA models between now and '35 if they wanted. Like a new take on a 512m, 458 speciale etc. but non Icona and around 296 pricing.

    But, I think they are focused culturally on getting ahead of the post 2035 world and convincing us all to accept the hybrid era etc.
     

Share This Page