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  1. USMCS6

    USMCS6 F1 Veteran
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    True... but as a racer, I take a win as a win! Max sure would have put pressure on, but Charles has some game. I wish it went to the end.
     
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  2. watt

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    poor lil' lewee, in the f1.tv post show -- pouting he was discriminated against penalised for gaining all his distance by leaving the track after hitting max twice.... he needs to go. living in a deep ocean of entitlement and a danger on the track, constantly dangerous blocks during practise etc... just "gutted" by his actually finally getting penalised.
     
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  3. HotShoe

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    Lots of hate against Charles on Ferrari’s official media by Lewis fans claiming he was robbed and treated unfairly. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. USMCS6

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    Take the damn hard pave rd.....
     
  5. bobzdar

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    Max forced Lewis into a mistake. If Lewis doesn't drive off the track there I think they have a case to be made for a penalty for Max as he barged into Lewis and ran him off track the corner before. But that was really kind of a dumb move and ruined any chance of a podium.

    Ferrari consistently on the podium is great but the reality is they haven't been close to winning one. That needs to change.

    Lando looking like the mentally strong one now. Oscar put in a workman like performance to stay in the title fight but 5th on merit doesn't look great when your teammate wins by a mile.
     
  6. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Maybe not everyone is sharing that opinion ?
     
  7. absostone

    absostone F1 World Champ
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    Bobzar, Max barged into lewis? again Max barged into lewis?. LOL ok
     
  8. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    Race director had authority, didn't break any rules.
     
  9. ktu

    ktu F1 Rookie

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    Great drive from Norris. Belt to a#$ on the rest of the field!
     
  10. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Piastri needed "not natural" driving style with McLaren F1 car in Mexico GP
    Oscar Piastri finished fifth in the Mexico Grand Prix, but lost the F1 championship lead to team-mate Lando Norris
    Jake Boxall-Legge Filip Cleeren
    Published: Oct 27, 2025, 12:11 AM - https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/piastri-needed-not-natural-driving-style-with-mclaren-f1-car-in-mexico-gp/10771749/

    Although Oscar Piastri's McLaren has not fundamentally changed for a number of races, the Australian says his Formula 1 car has changed enough for him to drive in a manner that he finds "not natural" - which he says explains his recent form.

    Piastri lost the championship lead for the first time since April as his team-mate Lando Norris moved a point ahead of him, having finished the Mexico Grand Prix fifth.

    Having dropped to 10th at the end of the opening lap amid the melee into the first corner, Piastri recovered positions and was on the back of Oliver Bearman in the race's final throes.

    The charge was halted when the virtual safety car came out, but Piastri had mitigated some of the damage to his points lead over Max Verstappen. Regardless, he was some way off Norris throughout the weekend - a situation that Piastri does not quite understand given their closeness through the year.

    Piastri explained that he had experimented with his driving style through the race, although says the traffic ahead of him made it difficult to fully grasp if the changes to his technique had worked.

    "I think we certainly tried a lot of different things," Piastri explained. "I felt like I stared at the back of a lot of cars as well, so it was difficult to get a read on whether what I was changing in my driving was working that well or not.

    "We'll have to analyse it and see if it looks good in terms of the numbers and stuff, because from a feeling point of view, when you're behind that many cars, it's very difficult to tell.

    "It's certainly been a learning experience for sure. For some reason the last couple of weekends has required a very different way of driving, and what's worked well for me in the last 19 races has needed something very different the last couple of weekends.

    "Trying to wrap my head around why has been a bit of a struggle, but ultimately today was about trying to experiment with some of those things.

    "I think driving the way I've had to drive these last couple of weekends is not particularly natural for me, so it's been about trying to exploit it as much as I can."

    Piastri tentatively suggested that he'd made some steps to uncovering more performance through the race, but wanted to analyse his data first before confirming that.

    He added that, although the virtual safety car had nullified his chances to break past Bearman to collect fourth - which would have kept him in the championship lead - he was not sure if he had enough to make the move on the Haas driver.

    "I think maybe it was a little bit better, but it wasn't so much the pace of the car, because clearly the car was pretty quick this weekend," he said.

    "It was more just trying to unlock it, and I felt like I potentially made some steps in doing that today, but ultimately when you're behind so many cars and trying to fight for so long, it's difficult to measure that a little bit, so hopefully we'll get a bit more indication from some of the data.
    "It would have been very, very tough [to pass Bearman]. It was one thing getting into DRS, and then it was another thing trying to overtake, so I'm not sure it made much difference in the end."
     
  11. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    No one said rules where broken, so not sure what you're on about.
     
  12. furoni

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    So, despite all the misfortune Charles is 64 points ahead of Sir Latrine...and it will most likely increase over the next 4 races....The Sir needs to send some more memos to the team...or maybe ask Lando how he manages the team to screw his team mate
     
  13. subirg

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    I find it highly entertaining that Lewis hate lives rent free in so many heads even when he’s a non entity this year.

    It is equally entertaining that Lando hate is growing exponentially. Is it something against the British? Or is it just deluded nonsense?
     
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  14. TonyL

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    Noticing that as well, basically its is deluded BS by a small minority of muppets on this site who try to dominate the agenda and shout down anyone who even raises a voice against crashtappen. I dont like the guy one bit but recognise a world champion

    So its good to see crashstappen was up to his old tricks again, that guy needs bumper bars on his car. Wrong tyres at the start so the pure intention is to barge his way to the front and survive as long as he can. At least OB dispensed some justice against the bloke. Leaves the track without any hope to make the corner and gains a massive advantage, then barges into Hamilton cuts the corner again and then forces LH off the track clearly overdriving the corner and still isnt penalised yet LH gets a 10sec penalty. either dish out the penalties equally or not at all. In this instance GR makes the right call.

    Political decisions to keep crashstappen in the hunt.

    Roll on Brazil and another LN win, totally dominated the weekend.
     
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  15. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Max didn't get a penalty for several reasons:

    Lap 1 gave up any advantage gained
    Lap 5 or whatever it was with Lewis, because of how the rules are written he was entitled to do what he wanted, Lewis barges him off as well the very next corner and the advantage Max gained because of that, he gave up the advantage again. Lewis then outbrakes himself on dirty tyres, gains an advantage, and never bothers to give the time back, THAT's why he got a penalty.

    Calling him crashstappen is not helping much.
     
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  16. LVP488

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    ;) Ferrari has now overtaken Mercedes and is second to McLaren.
    All in all, that's a good result, since they were close to being pushed to fourth by Red Bull.
    The season is not over though, but while the battle with Mercedes will be fierce, it seems the Red Bull threat is weaker.
     
  17. LVP488

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    The penalty for LH was not unexpected at all - 10s could be a bit harsh, but I do not understand why Ferrari did not choose to play it safely.
     
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  18. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Ferrari was dumb for not telling Lewis to give back the time gained. Lewis, despite the 10 second penalty, was lucky he didn't get more penalties (not that I think he deserved those potential penalties as I found it hard racing for the most part, it's the dumb rules that technically he should've gotten a penalty).
     
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  19. DF1

    DF1 Three Time F1 World Champ

    Well said by George, no gravel or major kerbing and you lawn mowing lol. You can remove stewarding rather easily and avoid the continued farce in this race next time.

    Formula 1 Mexican GP
    Russell blasts "lawnmower racing" at Mexico GP start
    George Russell deemed racing standards subpar in Mexico GP and felt hard done by
    Ben Vinel -- Via AUTSPORT
    Published: Oct 27, 2025, 11:57 AM

    George Russell has blasted “lawnmower racing” following opening-lap incidents that may have cost him track position in Formula 1’s Mexico Grand Prix.

    Polesitter Lando Norris tackled the first braking zone four-wide alongside Lewis Hamilton, Charles Leclerc and Max Verstappen, from inside to outside; while the former two stayed on the track, Leclerc and Verstappen ended up cutting Turn 2, then emerging in first and third respectively.

    Hamilton snatched third position away from Verstappen around the outside of Turn 5, but couldn’t get back past Leclerc. Meanwhile, having taken a cautious inside line into the first corner, fifth-placed Russell saw his rivals go off the track and rejoin ahead of him, which he was livid about.

    “I don't understand how three drivers can cut the first corner and just continue in the position they entered,” the Mercedes racer told Sky Sports F1. “It's like, allowing you to risk everything, but you just have a get-out-of-jail-free card if you get it wrong.”


    Asked if there was a lack of consistency in stewarding decisions, Russell replied: “Well, I think it holds me down to the circuit. You know, if there is this get-out-of-jail-free card… If there was gravel, no one would be there.

    “We've seen it almost every year we've been here. I think it was Carlos [Sainz] last year, Charles the year before, Lewis 10 years ago. It's like a lawnmower racing.

    “Something needs to change there. Because as I said, if you can just send it down the outside, you can either make it stick or you just cut the grass and you return in the position you were in before. That's not really how it should be.”

    Russell then further described the situation to written media: “Leclerc just made no attempt to stay on the track. Verstappen, obviously, just full risk, and got it wrong but continued in his place. The guys who did the right thing were the ones who came off worst.”

    On lap 6, Verstappen attacked Hamilton down the inside in Turn 1, with the Ferrari driver hanging around the outside despite being pushed off the track on the exit of the corner. Finding himself on the outside for Turn 2, Verstappen cut Turn 3 and rejoined in front.

    Hamilton caught him on the run to Turn 4, with Russell now close behind and ready to pounce if an opportunity arose. Hamilton locked up and went across the grass without taking the designated run-off line, landing a 10-second penalty due to sustaining a lasting advantage.

    “Max and Lewis, when they came together, Lewis got the penalty rightly so, but Max was off the track, came back on in the wrong place, wrong time for me, and I lost three positions,” Russell told Sky, having dropped back behind Oliver Bearman and Mercedes team-mate Andrea Kimi Antonelli in that chain of events.

    “Obviously I was pretty frustrated, but it all stemmed from lap one.”
     
  20. Bas

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    I've been barking up that tree for at least 15 years.
     
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  21. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I tend to agree with Russell, and I understand his frustration.
    Mexico is one of these circuits that invite drivers going off-track in all impunity .
    Let's do away with tarmaced run-off areas and replace them with gravel pits, so that offending drivers suffer the consequences.
     
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  22. Bas

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    Yes. The solution is really quite simple, before the Apex of the corner, it's fine to have the tarmac run off. It's safer for all types of motorsport. After the apex, have gravel traps again, and run it all the way to the kerb. This is where corner cutting and advantages happen in the first place, having gravel there will slow drivers down and they'll avoid it.

    No more opportunistic moves, no more ambitious corner cutting and racking up digital track cuts.
     
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  23. furoni

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    No, just the fact that both of them suck and the biased british media pretend they're better than they are. Yesterday the podium had the 2 best drivers on the grid....Lando is hardly a top 5
     
  24. furoni

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    I didn't like the way max passed Elton, he knew he was gonna touch him, i don't agree with pushing someone off the track to overtake him, after he did it ti Charles in Austria, this should have been dealt with. Of course Elton escape to cut half the track! was even more ridiculous, i mean, did he really think no one was going to notice how much time he gained on the rest of the pack???? I understand that he wa sused to win even when he arrived in second but, those days are long gone....
     

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